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RZR_Joe
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PostSubject: To turbo or not to turbo>>   To turbo or not to turbo>> EmptyThu Sep 06, 2012 6:46 pm

Found a deal on a complete Bikeman turbo setup. As you all know I can't leave anything alone for long lol! I have resisted tinkering on the motor but now might be the time. It would be nice to have some more power for those long hill climbs. Just wondering if it would be worth it for the type of riding we do.

Thoughts?
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PostSubject: Re: To turbo or not to turbo>>   To turbo or not to turbo>> EmptyThu Sep 06, 2012 7:32 pm

my only concern would be mud and water on the turbo
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PostSubject: Re: To turbo or not to turbo>>   To turbo or not to turbo>> EmptyThu Sep 06, 2012 8:07 pm

I think you would need the air-to-water setup for it, i've read it works much better around here. I thought you were thinking XP after Harlan?
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PostSubject: Re: To turbo or not to turbo>>   To turbo or not to turbo>> EmptyThu Sep 06, 2012 8:13 pm

the turbo will work fine the mud and water
the turbo will make more heat inside and outside the cab.
the intercooler is in the way,
do yourself a fav and get a XP900 jack it up and put big tires on it.
unless you can get the turbo cheap I mean real cheap
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RZR_Joe
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PostSubject: Re: To turbo or not to turbo>>   To turbo or not to turbo>> EmptyFri Sep 07, 2012 8:21 am

Water/mud should not be an issue. The turbo is tucked up under the middle of the bed. Marty makes a point about heat being an issue. I can get it a good price, not sure if it's real cheap though lol.

Bikeman stage II turbo kit, clutch (don't need), a/f gauge, boost gauge, throttle body with 3rd injector, fuel controller (piggy back style), ...$2750

More or less thinking long term. Over the winter the plan is to build a 900+cc big bore stroker motor. A a/w intercooled turbo on top would make for some good power. The only thing I'd end up using off the turbo kit is the turbo, header, and the muffler. Don't like piggy back style controllers and 3rd injector setup.....hmmm..talking myself right out of it.

XP4 is going to be the wifes xmas present so I'm SOL on a XP lol!
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PostSubject: Re: To turbo or not to turbo>>   To turbo or not to turbo>> EmptySat Sep 08, 2012 1:02 am

dont touch that 800 motor you just leave it stock
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PostSubject: Re: To turbo or not to turbo>>   To turbo or not to turbo>> EmptySat Sep 08, 2012 5:31 am

Ditto


most of the time when you start modding and tear into the motor there no longer a reliable trail machine. they are in the shop more than on the trails.

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PostSubject: Re: To turbo or not to turbo>>   To turbo or not to turbo>> EmptySat Sep 08, 2012 9:50 am

bush wrote:
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most of the time when you start modding and tear into the motor there no longer a reliable trail machine. they are in the shop more than on the trails.

Agree. That is what I have seen a lot of on rides. The ones that have been all beefed up go back to camp and stay there after something stops working, while the rest of us ride.
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PostSubject: Re: To turbo or not to turbo>>   To turbo or not to turbo>> EmptySat Sep 08, 2012 10:23 am

I think it would be a bad idea Ditto
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PostSubject: Re: To turbo or not to turbo>>   To turbo or not to turbo>> EmptySat Sep 08, 2012 12:27 pm

I don't know about the bigbore stroker kit with the turbo.. But I can tell you I have several friends That have had turbo RZRs with very little trouble. One of them I know for a fact was putting down 85 HP at the rear wheels.. That was over a year ago. That said most all of them have either wrecked or just replaced their machines for newer ones and most have just gotten XPs since its about the same money and less work.. Since you have a decked out 800 it might be worth doing.. Honestly though your already that wide and if you don't mind the cash difference I'd just get an XP..
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PostSubject: Re: To turbo or not to turbo>>   To turbo or not to turbo>> EmptySat Sep 08, 2012 10:21 pm

i agree with the work that is on it. you could sell or even get one heck of a trade in... i love my xp never have another s again
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PostSubject: Re: To turbo or not to turbo>>   To turbo or not to turbo>> EmptySun Sep 09, 2012 8:26 am

I've got it pretty much the way I like except I'd like a bit more power. I really don't want to start all over with a new machine. Plus, already have to get an XP 4 so a new for me is out.

Agreed, don't want to be working on it because I have to but rather because I like to. So maybe I'll rethink the big bore stroker idea. Being an old hotroder it's been very hard not to build a badass motor. Maybe I'll just through in some 8.5 CP pistons and run 8-10psi with an a/w intercooler. My worry is the crank though, seems there are some that hold up ok and others not worth a crap. Or.....I could build a completly new badass motor and keep the stock one as a spare...hmmmm

BTW - cost & performance diff between an new XP with 88hp or slapping on a turbo and making 80+ to the ground....IMHO it's a no brainer.
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PostSubject: Re: To turbo or not to turbo>>   To turbo or not to turbo>> EmptySun Sep 09, 2012 10:10 am

Sounds like you modded everything everything you ever had in the past, me too but think about this, RESALE I've found no matter how nice of a job you done nobody really wants anything that has been screwed with that much. FUN FACTOR serous mods like turbo adds a lot of bad ass factor that don't really mean crap when your riding with your buddy's on stockers, for me big mods take away the fun factor out of riding, I'm always a little worried about my mods and then worried about my drive train that I didn't mod. I've had some serous failures on rides but for the most part have had good reliability with mods I've made. Just some things to think about, I know where your coming from I just got a new razor s instead of a xp, all my buddies think I'm up to something, I've done a little cage work and a few other things but I haven't broken the seal on my engine, so now they have taken bets on how long it will be before screw with the engine. Wish me luck, I think I can do this, I didn't buy the xp cause I couldn't afford it, so I got a s, probably the most capibale machine I've ever bought, almost all sxs are making good power, crap I could go on forever, this is the thing, are you keeping with your buddies thatsright
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PostSubject: Re: To turbo or not to turbo>>   To turbo or not to turbo>> EmptyFri Sep 14, 2012 9:40 am

I don't care a thing about resale or "keeping up with the Jones". I just like to tinker and build cool $hit drive

I did it....turbo on the way beat I think I'll keep it a low boost stock motor setup. Going to send everything out to have it ceramic coated and add an a/w intercooler.
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PostSubject: Re: To turbo or not to turbo>>   To turbo or not to turbo>> EmptyFri Sep 14, 2012 7:49 pm

RZR_Joe wrote:
I don't care a thing about resale or "keeping up with the Jones". I just like to tinker and build cool $hit drive

I did it....turbo on the way beat I think I'll keep it a low boost stock motor setup. Going to send everything out to have it ceramic coated and add an a/w intercooler.

Oh boy, here we go again....... beat

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you need 30" tires too
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PostSubject: Re: To turbo or not to turbo>>   To turbo or not to turbo>> EmptySat Sep 15, 2012 10:41 pm

CatMostFeared wrote:
dont touch that 800 motor you just leave it stock
Once its a hotrod its always a hotrod Tools Chainsaw Tools

bush wrote:
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most of the time when you start modding and tear into the motor there no longer a reliable trail machine. they are in the shop more than on the trails.


Joe,

You know we are in the same boat... I've almost pulled the trigger on a turbo or an XP.

I think you'd be better off starting with an XP before doing the turbo. What Bush and Stealth said are very true. The fact that Marty says that (and has had a turbo on his last machine) should speak very clearly to you.

I'd love more power but the only way I'd do it is going with an XP and narrowing the bike.

My .02 worth....


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PostSubject: Re: To turbo or not to turbo>>   To turbo or not to turbo>> EmptyTue Sep 18, 2012 7:39 am

For now I won't make it a "hotrod" althought it takes every once of restrant not to lol! Just a mild turbo setup thatsright
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PostSubject: Re: To turbo or not to turbo>>   To turbo or not to turbo>> EmptyTue Sep 18, 2012 11:05 am

RZR_Joe wrote:
For now I won't make it a "hotrod" althought it takes every once of restrant not to lol! Just a mild turbo setup thatsright

There is no such thing as a "mild" turbo set up hahaha
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Just a little boost Laughing boost is our friend Smiles
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