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PostSubject: Re: Brimstone's New Rider policy, IMPORTANT everyone read!   Wed Feb 06, 2013 10:40 pm

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Why has Trails End Campground not made a statement as of yet? Anybody hear anything from them? Sure are a lot of people standing up for them!!!!

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We would like to let all of Trials End supporters know that first We appreciate and love all of you very much. Second, I have sent a message to Brimstone to which I have received no response asking what fee we would need to pay or what is required to be put on their list of approved places to stay. We will continue to try and resolve the issue with Brimstone. Hopefully they will see that you the riders are going to suffer as well as everyone involved. We can offer you permits to ride the TWRA area or guide you to the Chitwood area which is free until a solution is found. Thank you all again for your support !!!

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PostSubject: Re: Brimstone's New Rider policy, IMPORTANT everyone read!   Wed Feb 06, 2013 10:42 pm

trails end has made a statement on their facebook page thanking all their supporters
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PostSubject: Re: Brimstone's New Rider policy, IMPORTANT everyone read!   Wed Feb 06, 2013 10:48 pm

So guys, tell me, where does the animosity between Brimstone and Trails End come from? I understand that Trails End has always been good to us, but is Brimstone totally to blame here? It sounds like they have already sought legal counsel and they believe they are within their legal rights. But I think they may have underestimated the backlash they are receiving in the off-road community. We can continue to blow up their Facebook but the only true way to show who's boss here is the hit them in their wallets and continue to spread the word in forums they cannot censor.

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PostSubject: Re: Brimstone's New Rider policy, IMPORTANT everyone read!   Wed Feb 06, 2013 10:52 pm

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So guys, tell me, where does the animosity between Brimstone and Trails End come from? I understand that Trails End has always been good to us, but is Brimstone totally to blame here? It sounds like they have already sought legal counsel and they believe they are within their legal rights. But I think they may have underestimated the backlash they are receiving in the off-road community. We can continue to blow up their Facebook but the only true way to show who's boss here is the hit them in their wallets and continue to spread the word in forums they cannot censor.

" I would say there is some reasonable business decision in here somewhere. Surely they know the ramifications of alienating the riders like this. There must be a reason for them not specifically telling everyone what is driving this decision. But if I were reading between the lines, notice which business is absent from the list and remember the divorce. I am sure there is something more than we all know."

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PostSubject: Re: Brimstone's New Rider policy, IMPORTANT everyone read!   Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:08 pm

rzrrider wrote:
trails end has made a statement on their facebook page thanking all their supporters

Link for support please!!

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PostSubject: Re: Brimstone's New Rider policy, IMPORTANT everyone read!   Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:11 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Brimstone's New Rider policy, IMPORTANT everyone read!   Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:15 pm

this was posted on my facebook after i left a couple messages on brimstones facebook here is their reply.......


Brimstone Recreation We have not changed how we do business. You can just come in to ride if you have a your annual pass, and there is no additional cost. You don't have to spend the night.
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PostSubject: Re: Brimstone's New Rider policy, IMPORTANT everyone read!   Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:24 pm

RangeRover wrote:
njcraddock wrote:
So guys, tell me, where does the animosity between Brimstone and Trails End come from? I understand that Trails End has always been good to us, but is Brimstone totally to blame here? It sounds like they have already sought legal counsel and they believe they are within their legal rights. But I think they may have underestimated the backlash they are receiving in the off-road community. We can continue to blow up their Facebook but the only true way to show who's boss here is the hit them in their wallets and continue to spread the word in forums they cannot censor.

remember the divorce.

A divorice? Is that what all this is really about?

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PostSubject: Re: Brimstone's New Rider policy, IMPORTANT everyone read!   Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:24 pm

http://windrockpark.com/
http://www.rideroyalblue.com/
and the link to BS, well how does it feel to be left out ownedsm
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PostSubject: Re: Brimstone's New Rider policy, IMPORTANT everyone read!   Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:27 pm

"Trails End Campground-
Ronnie, I would love to tell you what the problem is. However, Im just dont know what the problem is. Brimstone would have to answer that question. We have supported and done everything we could do to help Brimstone from letting them cross our property, opening the campground and opening up fields to accomodate the people that have come to ride Brimstone. We have over the years had to put up with alot and for some reason that is all being swept under the rug and now it is as tho we have never helped them in any way. With that being said, Trails End is willing to work on a solution to the problem and we hope that this can be resolved in a manner that will benefit everyone involved especially the riders."

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PostSubject: Re: Brimstone's New Rider policy, IMPORTANT everyone read!   Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:29 pm

Sent a message to the chamber and Ben leaving post on Facebook. Does anyone know how to set up a boycott brimstone web page. Then we could post a link to it on all the off road forums out there.

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PostSubject: Re: Brimstone's New Rider policy, IMPORTANT everyone read!   Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:33 pm

Everyone who is a member of this group and all the others we can get should go spend a weekend at trails end. Fill the campground fields and whatever they have. Then maybe brimstone will see what they are losing
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PostSubject: Re: Brimstone's New Rider policy, IMPORTANT everyone read!   Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:33 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Brimstone's New Rider policy, IMPORTANT everyone read!   Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:36 pm

guys here are some facts that seem strange.

1. the orginal campground is not on the list.
2. the campground that has the closet trail access to multiple trails is not on the list
3. the campground that is closet to brimestone retreat s is not on the list by yhe way it is onwned by brimstone
4. trailsend has let them uae use trail access for trails for free.
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they say their reason is that trailsend is not on the list is because they waaant people that want to help tbem grow seems to me trailsend fits this.

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#2 & #3 directly affect their pocket jusr my 2c,s
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PostSubject: Re: Brimstone's New Rider policy, IMPORTANT everyone read!   Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:37 pm

banbrimstonetn.com is up for grabs on godaddy lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Brimstone's New Rider policy, IMPORTANT everyone read!   Thu Feb 07, 2013 12:10 am

ride twra and stay at trails end. its cheaper and great trails
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PostSubject: Re: Brimstone's New Rider policy, IMPORTANT everyone read!   Thu Feb 07, 2013 12:52 am

Man I am really bummed here.....the root problem here ie GREED, period......and since no one else here will say what needs to be said I will........FUCK BRIMSTONE.....there, now ya all know how I feel.
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PostSubject: Re: Brimstone's New Rider policy, IMPORTANT everyone read!   Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:21 am

i posted this on there facebook page. will see if it gets answered or deleted.


Jarred Bushposted toBrimstone Recreation
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''Brimstone Recreation Jasmine, no one is has paid us to be a preferred location. These are the locations that have been supportive of Brimstone and have helped to build Brimstone, and they will continue to do so.''

so tell us how trails end have not been supportive??

trails end has been there from the start.
so tell us how they have NOT helped build brimstone?

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PostSubject: Re: Brimstone's New Rider policy, IMPORTANT everyone read!   Thu Feb 07, 2013 2:15 am

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PostSubject: Re: Brimstone's New Rider policy, IMPORTANT everyone read!   Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:21 am

Ok here goes. I already belong to rzrforum and redneck ridge riders. Now I joined here due to your replies to the brimstone rules. I have rode at royal blue and loved it. WAS looking forward to going to brimstone this year. Well that ship has sailed now. It appears that they just want to shut down a few of the small boys in town and they have turned into nothing more than a big bully. I have looked at all the GPS maps out there and don't understand one thing. How much of the trail syst do they actually own and have sovrenty to? What can we ride on that is twra and drive by and stick our middle finger out to them and they can't do anything about. For what it's worth brimstone will get NO recommendations from me.
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PostSubject: Re: Brimstone's New Rider policy, IMPORTANT everyone read!   Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:25 am

If brimstone deletes your post on Facebook. Put it on trails end. I garuntee they are reading everything posted there to ensure trails end does not slander them. They will read it and so will everybody else.
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PostSubject: Re: Brimstone's New Rider policy, IMPORTANT everyone read!   Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:25 am

It might also help to post on the Facebook pages of the "sponsored facilities" that you will no longer be patronizing Brimstone due to this new policy and that by them joining Brimstone in this venture, it will actually be costing them business.
If the "sponsored facilities" also have to constantly monitor their Facebook to delete posts and complain to Brimstone about the policies backlash, that would definitely put pressure on Brimstone to change it.
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PostSubject: Re: Brimstone's New Rider policy, IMPORTANT everyone read!   Thu Feb 07, 2013 4:34 am

Here here honcho. Well played.
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PostSubject: Re: Brimstone's New Rider policy, IMPORTANT everyone read!   Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:36 am

i would suggest to also go to the brimstone event sponsors and post on there sites. maybe if their event sponsors start calling them aboit people not buying their products because of this they will hef the point.
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PostSubject: Re: Brimstone's New Rider policy, IMPORTANT everyone read!   Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:39 am

Tonyh11 wrote:
Ok here goes. I already belong to rzrforum and redneck ridge riders. Now I joined here due to your replies to the brimstone rules. I have rode at royal blue and loved it. WAS looking forward to going to brimstone this year. Well that ship has sailed now. It appears that they just want to shut down a few of the small boys in town and they have turned into nothing more than a big bully. I have looked at all the GPS maps out there and don't understand one thing. How much of the trail syst do they actually own and have sovrenty to? What can we ride on that is twra and drive by and stick our middle finger out to them and they can't do anything about. For what it's worth brimstone will get NO recommendations from me.
The twra trails are from the lower side of brimstome after trail 30 turns off of trail 1. From there you can ride to windrock or to royal blue. There is plenty of riding with some really rough trails and some that are gravel roads. Even if they get this issue resolved I suggest ya'll try em out.
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