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PostSubject: Re: Yamaha Viking    Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:40 pm

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Well, the RZR4 is under warranty for 2 more years. Maybe by that time Yammy will have a machine that I am ready to jump into.
Don't get me wrong, I would gladly take one of these Yamahas for deer season and working around a camp, but just not what I expected them to unveil as a new groundbreaking SxS.





But, that is EXACTLY the turf that they are trying to defend.  Notice how they're targeting farmers and hunters who also want to play a bit?  Just like they always have... it's the aftermarket that turned them into serious trail and dune machines, not Yamaha.


Meanwhile, did anyone else pick up on how they're trying to redefine the "class" of sport/utes to mean 3 or more seats?  They defined the original sport/ute class of machine, and it will be interesting to see if they can redefine it...


Not trying to start anything by any means here and saying this with the up most respect but defend what turf?
The ranger has taken all but a very small amount of loyalist to the brand. Its like what honda did with the big red, they made an inferior machine that appealed to no one outside of die hard fans of the brand. Not as handy on the farm as a mule and not as trail capable as a ranger.


Call me crazy but I would of rather them shoved a v twin in the rhino and released that instead of this thing.
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PostSubject: Re: Yamaha Viking    Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:00 pm

IMO, the Ranger owns the segment the Viking was 'developed' for and Yammy comes out with something that looks like ass, and the Ranger can flick like a booger off it's finger.
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PostSubject: Re: Yamaha Viking    Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:01 pm

Yamaha essentially defined the sport/utility market -- that's the "turf" I'm talking about -- they have to defend a position in that market, and expand from there. 
 
How do you know this is an inferior machine? Compared to what? IMO, this thing is quite comparable to a STOCK  Teryx for example.  I admit it doesn't have the potential performance improvements of that 750 twin, but it wins in some areas (3-seater, stock) while it loses in others.  It would be interesting to do a spec comparison between the Teryx and this thing, and see how close they compare. 
 
Can Yamaha win back any of those who've bought other brands?  Can Yamaha win new buyers?  No one knows... perhaps most importantly, can they win the current Rhino owners when it comes time to trade in --  and until people can get their hands on these things, and see what they really are, and what they can do, no one knows how good of a machine they really are...
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PostSubject: Re: Yamaha Viking    Wed Jun 12, 2013 4:24 pm

Hey Kent, you sure we're not related? Sir, I agree with everything you've said. I'm looking forward to being able to see one up close and personal.
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PostSubject: Re: Yamaha Viking    Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:17 pm

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Hey Kent, you sure we're not related? Sir, I agree with everything you've said. I'm looking forward to being able to see one up close and personal.

Thanks, Tick! HatWave

But, what do we know -- we bought 450s to begin with.... thatsright
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PostSubject: Re: Yamaha Viking    Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:39 pm

Kent ditto BUT I was still hoping for more , I have been a rhino customer waiting  on this, and I find it lacking, I was planning on a new machine this year but now I don't know, I guess when one comes in I can sit in it and run it, it has some things it does have over my 700 is power steering , 9.1 gal tank and 30 % better fuel economy ,does that warrant a switch and this time it is no!!!
My dealer told me today after I called him to tell him I am  taking my name off the first to order list, he told me YAMAHA IS COMING OUT WITH A NEW MACHINE ONE A YEAR FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.SO WHAT IS NEXT. I hope something more 2cents,
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PostSubject: Re: Yamaha Viking    Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:07 pm

Big D, I understand completely.  Personally, the T4 is the only machine that has even made me think of trading in my 450.  Personally, I'd like to see something like a mid-size 550 FI Crew, but who knows if that will ever happen....

I have midsize pickup - Nissan Frontier 4WD - I don't need another to haul things.  I don't need a heavy-duty 4WD all-terrain work machine -- I have a Power Trac articulated 4WD tool carrier, similar to baby payloader with almost a dozen attachments.  I have a "sports car" -- a VW-powered MG replica -- for pure open air fun.  The only thing that would interest me is something relatively inexpensive, yet reliable, that I can use for light hauling chores around the farm and that I could load up and hit the trails with the grandkids if I wanted to...

See a pattern here?  I like toys too - but I don't have, nor can I afford the "biggest, baddest" on the market for each of the types of toys/tools that I have... yet, when I do spend the hard earned $$ on toys/tools, I try to research the crap out of them, get the best value I can, and make sure it is as reliable as possible for the long term...

One machine can't please everyone... I just hope Yamaha can please enough people with this machine to keep them competitive in the market for the long term.  I have NOTHING negative to say about my 450, and have no real reason to trade it in.  Maybe Yamaha will entice me, one day...

The mid-size Ranger didn't give me that reason.  The T4 didn't... I'm content to wait and see if Yamaha can.
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PostSubject: Re: Yamaha Viking    Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:27 pm

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wonder if you will be able to hear what your passenger is saying in this one

thatsright

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PostSubject: Re: Yamaha Viking    Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:31 pm

It looks like a bigger version of a rhino. Just from what I have read and my persona observations. It looks good. I think the doors could have been made to come up higher than the seats. It needs a turf mode. the wheels and tires could be bigger. just my 2cents
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PostSubject: Re: Yamaha Viking    Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:14 pm

I think Kawasaki could take a large part of the utility market by taking the T-4 and doing what Honda did with the Pioneer. Make it a long bed with removal rear seats. Their new engine could easily be upped to an 850cc. It would be good for working, maybe 800lbs load in the bed, 1400 lbs towing, and a good trail machine. It would out do the new Honda and Yamaha and be a real challenge to the Ranger 900 XP.
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PostSubject: Re: Yamaha Viking    Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:17 am

Hell , the Rhino looked better than that thing.....Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Yamaha Viking    Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:00 pm

I went over to Rhino forums and looked around. Have not been there
in over a year , after the news of this Viking thing came out.
It looked like they were going to start Crying....lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Yamaha Viking    Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:12 pm

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One machine can't please everyone... I just hope Yamaha can please enough people with this machine to keep them competitive in the market for the long term.  I have NOTHING negative to say about my 450, and have no real reason to trade it in.  Maybe Yamaha will entice me, one day...

Kent, that is a great point.  This machine is everything I thought it would be so I am not disappointed. 

However, I would think that many people will chose other machines do to HP.  I now have a T-4 and it will not go over 50 MPH but it has ten times the torque of the Rhino.  That makes a big difference when trail riding. Yamaha will fall even more behind the game with this machine. 

Now we will have to see what they do over the  next five years.  Maybe this machine will be the replacement for the 450 and next year will have a bigger engine.  Now that would be a step in the right direction.  Then a sport model.  Who knows I guess we will wait and see.

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PostSubject: Re: Yamaha Viking    Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:56 pm

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One machine can't please everyone... I just hope Yamaha can please enough people with this machine to keep them competitive in the market for the long term.  I have NOTHING negative to say about my 450, and have no real reason to trade it in.  Maybe Yamaha will entice me, one day...





Kent, that is a great point.  This machine is everything I thought it would be so I am not disappointed. 

However, I would think that many people will chose other machines do to HP.  I now have a T-4 and it will not go over 50 MPH but it has ten times the torque of the Rhino.  That makes a big difference when trail riding. Yamaha will fall even more behind the game with this machine. 

Now we will have to see what they do over the  next five years.  Maybe this machine will be the replacement for the 450 and next year will have a bigger engine.  Now that would be a step in the right direction.  Then a sport model.  Who knows I guess we will wait and see

You forgot to add............... Meanwhile, Polaris will be raking in the money.  Bottom line.
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PostSubject: Re: Yamaha Viking    Thu Jun 20, 2013 6:19 pm

DON'T LOSE HOPE JUST YET. ONE OF OUR SALESMAN WAS IN LAS VEGAS FOR THE DEALER MEETING & FOR THE NEXT 5 YEARS THE SAID THERE WOULD BE A NEW SXS MODEL OUT EVERY YEAR. SO MAYBE THEY ARE GOING AT IT SLOWLY TO AVOID ANYMORE LAWSUITS. HELL ALL THE LAWSUITS PUT A BE SCARE IN THEM, COST YAMAHA ALOT OF MONEY. SO HOPFULLY THERE WILL BE ONE BADASS RHINO IN THE FUTURE. ALSO I,M GOING TO D.C. FOR THE POLARIS MEETING IN JULY FOR THE UNVEILING OF SOMETHING THEY HAVE NEW
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PostSubject: Re: Yamaha Viking    Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:33 pm

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............. ALSO I,M GOING TO D.C. FOR THE POLARIS MEETING IN JULY FOR THE UNVEILING OF SOMETHING THEY HAVE NEW

Can I go???? bounce

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PostSubject: Re: Yamaha Viking    Mon Aug 05, 2013 2:25 pm

Was driving by the local Yamaha dealer today and they had a red Viking sitting out front so naturaly I had to go back for a closer look . It is the size of a land yacht . The first impression is the suspension appears to be very simular to the rhino , the bed height has been raised alot from the rhino but  does have must more cargo space  . The cab area is simular to the ranger is size and layout .Still not sold on the three seat deal yet  but it should make a nice utility/farm machine , After seeing one in person I have no regret buying a sport machine.
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PostSubject: Re: Yamaha Viking    Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:47 pm

They are big, not sure who the target market is for the thing. IMO the Rhino with a Twin cylinder, long travel suspension, a little wider, shorter bed, better seat ergonomics, would have been a better machine. Throw in a full cage, front to back, four harness seat belts. Recommendation stickers to use the seat belts. Call it good. How hard would that be?
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PostSubject: Re: Yamaha Viking    Sat Sep 14, 2013 9:51 pm

Looked at one today. Pretty impressive.

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PostSubject: Re: Yamaha Viking    Sun Sep 15, 2013 9:08 am

ridepate wrote:
Looked at one today. Pretty impressive.
For what it is, yeah.... However it does not stand up to the competition.

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