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PostSubject: Frame Gusset Cracked at Rear Diff mount on the Rhino.   Frame Gusset Cracked at Rear Diff mount on the Rhino. EmptyMon Jun 01, 2009 10:22 am

See pics on post below. I had a noise from 2pm on Saturday that I could not place. sounded like a cracked frame....The squeaking went away with a bath. suspension....But, i swear the rear diff is flexing in the frame mounts a bit. That is apparently where the sound is coming from. I think.... I didnt see any place that it could come from, other than the a-arm bushings. I hope like hell the frame gussets aren't broke.

I am ordering a rear support brace for it today. I will know more when I get home today. Tonight I plan on taking it apart and checking it out. Anyone have any input? Best brace to buy? I like the lonestar setup, but some of the others brackets bolt to multiple spots. I'm thinking that would be stronger.

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PostSubject: Re: Frame Gusset Cracked at Rear Diff mount on the Rhino.   Frame Gusset Cracked at Rear Diff mount on the Rhino. EmptyMon Jun 01, 2009 10:38 am

I don't have them -- only his skids and stick-stoppers, but I'm quite impressed with Trail Logic's stuff for the price you pay. Heavy duty and quite reasonably priced -- plus you get to deal with a real live human...

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PostSubject: Re: Frame Gusset Cracked at Rear Diff mount on the Rhino.   Frame Gusset Cracked at Rear Diff mount on the Rhino. EmptyMon Jun 01, 2009 10:58 am

I have the CRB rear diff support. Really like it. Tools
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PostSubject: Re: Frame Gusset Cracked at Rear Diff mount on the Rhino.   Frame Gusset Cracked at Rear Diff mount on the Rhino. EmptyMon Jun 01, 2009 12:35 pm

I second the Trail Logic's.
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PostSubject: Re: Frame Gusset Cracked at Rear Diff mount on the Rhino.   Frame Gusset Cracked at Rear Diff mount on the Rhino. EmptyMon Jun 01, 2009 1:56 pm

I third the Trial-Logic's. Check all your rear-diff mount bolts Clay, they tend to get loose.

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PostSubject: Re: Frame Gusset Cracked at Rear Diff mount on the Rhino.   Frame Gusset Cracked at Rear Diff mount on the Rhino. EmptyMon Jun 01, 2009 7:01 pm

Well... the rear differentials upper rear frame gusset bolts were loose. Could turn it by hand. The front was loose also. Not quite as bad, but loose. I took the front bolt out of the gusset and the drivers side of the gusset is cracked. Its about 1/8 inch from being cracked all the way thru. The pics kinda show it. To weld that crack... would the rear differential have to come out? Would it get too hot for that quick weld? See the pics below. these are from the drivers side looking to the passangers side. I am ordering the trail logic Gusset kit tonight. Input needed!!!!

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PostSubject: Re: Frame Gusset Cracked at Rear Diff mount on the Rhino.   Frame Gusset Cracked at Rear Diff mount on the Rhino. EmptyMon Jun 01, 2009 7:24 pm

Wow that's been loose for awhile seeing how the holes are ovaled. I'd think a quick-weld would be ok myself.

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PostSubject: Re: Frame Gusset Cracked at Rear Diff mount on the Rhino.   Frame Gusset Cracked at Rear Diff mount on the Rhino. EmptyMon Jun 01, 2009 7:43 pm

Yeah, I had no idea that could happen. We need a "Tech Tips sticky" section on here to help guys avoid crap like this. With some how to do's, preventive maintenance etc...

Sucks on my end. I don't have a welder. Dad does, but he is in Louisiana....Gona have to drag it somewhere.
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PostSubject: Re: Frame Gusset Cracked at Rear Diff mount on the Rhino.   Frame Gusset Cracked at Rear Diff mount on the Rhino. EmptyMon Jun 01, 2009 8:38 pm

That sucks Clay. At least you know what it is and you should be able to fix it pretty easy.
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PostSubject: Re: Frame Gusset Cracked at Rear Diff mount on the Rhino.   Frame Gusset Cracked at Rear Diff mount on the Rhino. EmptyMon Jun 01, 2009 9:27 pm

I can put a small weld there. But I wonder if I can grind it back smooth. You would want the flange there to be level in order to securley tighten the nut down. Its pretty tight to get a grinder in there. Maybe a drimmel?
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PostSubject: Re: Frame Gusset Cracked at Rear Diff mount on the Rhino.   Frame Gusset Cracked at Rear Diff mount on the Rhino. EmptyMon Jun 01, 2009 9:43 pm

Look in Rhino area for diff support topic.
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PostSubject: Re: Frame Gusset Cracked at Rear Diff mount on the Rhino.   Frame Gusset Cracked at Rear Diff mount on the Rhino. EmptyMon Jun 01, 2009 10:16 pm

That blows.........

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PostSubject: Re: Frame Gusset Cracked at Rear Diff mount on the Rhino.   Frame Gusset Cracked at Rear Diff mount on the Rhino. EmptyMon Jun 01, 2009 11:13 pm

do a search. you will find lots of info on the issue.
while you are at it add all the supports you can because even after all the supports i have added the bolts still get loose over time. keep and eye on the bolts!!!!!

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PostSubject: Re: Frame Gusset Cracked at Rear Diff mount on the Rhino.   Frame Gusset Cracked at Rear Diff mount on the Rhino. EmptyTue Jun 02, 2009 6:47 am

Is this a problem with the 700s or just the 660s?
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PostSubject: Re: Frame Gusset Cracked at Rear Diff mount on the Rhino.   Frame Gusset Cracked at Rear Diff mount on the Rhino. EmptyTue Jun 02, 2009 8:50 am

I think the bolts can work their way loose on all of them. However the 660s have a weaker frame in the rear. I'm adding a gusset kit to mine, front and rear.
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PostSubject: Re: Frame Gusset Cracked at Rear Diff mount on the Rhino.   Frame Gusset Cracked at Rear Diff mount on the Rhino. EmptyTue Jun 02, 2009 5:45 pm

what about the 450s?
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PostSubject: Re: Frame Gusset Cracked at Rear Diff mount on the Rhino.   Frame Gusset Cracked at Rear Diff mount on the Rhino. EmptyTue Jun 02, 2009 6:15 pm

I have the diff gussets got them from bluegrass utv only have front on riight now need to put the rear diff on
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PostSubject: Re: Frame Gusset Cracked at Rear Diff mount on the Rhino.   Frame Gusset Cracked at Rear Diff mount on the Rhino. EmptyTue Jun 02, 2009 9:15 pm

I wouldnt wait too long. May cause a BIG headache if you do.
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PostSubject: Re: Frame Gusset Cracked at Rear Diff mount on the Rhino.   Frame Gusset Cracked at Rear Diff mount on the Rhino. EmptyWed Jun 03, 2009 8:00 pm

Well, I got a MIG Welder from work and fixed the crack. Smoothed it out a little and bolted it back together with locktite and a lock washer. Hopefully that will keep it tight for a while. I also ordered the complete frame gusset kit with winch plate from Trail logic. Kinda high, but good insurance apparently. $186 shipped. Winch plate really addded some money. Apparently the regular front gusset wont clear a standard winch plate. So I had to get their plate. Added 40 buck or so.... I will post some pics of what it looks like with the kit installed. shark
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PostSubject: Re: Frame Gusset Cracked at Rear Diff mount on the Rhino.   Frame Gusset Cracked at Rear Diff mount on the Rhino. EmptyWed Jun 03, 2009 8:47 pm

Good deal on your fix, Clay. study Tools Rhino
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PostSubject: Re: Frame Gusset Cracked at Rear Diff mount on the Rhino.   Frame Gusset Cracked at Rear Diff mount on the Rhino. EmptyWed Jun 03, 2009 9:52 pm

Good job Clay...... allright
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PostSubject: Re: Frame Gusset Cracked at Rear Diff mount on the Rhino.   Frame Gusset Cracked at Rear Diff mount on the Rhino. EmptyWed Jun 03, 2009 9:57 pm

A question. Is the torque spec. altered with loctite and lock washers?
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PostSubject: Re: Frame Gusset Cracked at Rear Diff mount on the Rhino.   Frame Gusset Cracked at Rear Diff mount on the Rhino. EmptyWed Jun 03, 2009 10:21 pm

That i dont know. I tightened the piss out of it with an impact wrench. Im hoping the lock washer and locktite will keep it from loosing up.
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PostSubject: Re: Frame Gusset Cracked at Rear Diff mount on the Rhino.   Frame Gusset Cracked at Rear Diff mount on the Rhino. EmptyWed Jun 03, 2009 10:33 pm

Oh.... And I removed the sway bar! drive
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