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PostSubject: new 700 rhino   new 700  rhino EmptyTue Mar 04, 2008 2:54 pm

what cdi box would yaw use on the 08 >700.thanks for any input Gary 😕
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PostSubject: Re: new 700 rhino   new 700  rhino EmptyTue Mar 04, 2008 3:22 pm

Gary, I heard the other day from another member none of the current CDI's will work on the new 700FI. Being as the 700 is Fuel Injected you need to wait for an ECU Controller; it will more than likely be more expensive than a CDI also. There is not an ECU Controller in production for the 700FI Rhino but in time there will be.

Where I initally heard this from was wvYankee on the last ride but it proves true just research it.
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PostSubject: Re: new 700 rhino   new 700  rhino EmptyTue Mar 04, 2008 3:34 pm

heard the same - but I would call or email dynatek or a vendor on the west coast - they are generally in the know.
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PostSubject: Re: new 700 rhino   new 700  rhino EmptyTue Mar 04, 2008 3:39 pm

thanks have been looking an wondering why no body spoke of these yet.Will wait an see thanks Gary
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PostSubject: Re: new 700 rhino   new 700  rhino EmptyTue Mar 04, 2008 8:53 pm

i've heard these are going to be so expensive also, but in the last Dirt Wheels mag they had an ECU for the Suzuki LTR450 for only $39.95.
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PostSubject: Re: new 700 rhino   new 700  rhino EmptyWed Mar 05, 2008 9:33 am

Doebeck, HMF, and the other usual suspects will have a programmer in the near future I'm sure. I'm not sure why it is taken as long as it has since there are products out for the 700 Grizzly already. I guess it is a different beast though with twice the weight so different power curves are probably necessary.

For now, you can add a clutch sheave to get more top end out of it. I know Hunterworks has one for a little over $200 and will give you 6 to 8 mph on the top end.
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PostSubject: Re: new 700 rhino   new 700  rhino EmptyWed Mar 05, 2008 9:51 am

Tiger Rag wrote:
Doebeck, HMF, and the other usual suspects will have a programmer in the near future I'm sure. I'm not sure why it is taken as long as it has since there are products out for the 700 Grizzly already. I guess it is a different beast though with twice the weight so different power curves are probably necessary.

For now, you can add a clutch sheave to get more top end out of it. I know Hunterworks has one for a little over $200 and will give you 6 to 8 mph on the top end.

true(i have one) but with the stock cdi and rev limiter it would be pretty much pointless cause it would never go over 40mph
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PostSubject: Re: new 700 rhino   new 700  rhino EmptyWed Mar 05, 2008 9:53 am

it actually lets the belt ride higher to increase your top end w/o hitting the rev limiter. I have one on my 08 700 and on the flat highway i can hit 50.
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PostSubject: Re: new 700 rhino   new 700  rhino EmptyWed Mar 05, 2008 10:20 am

shawnley1222 wrote:
Tiger Rag wrote:
Doebeck, HMF, and the other usual suspects will have a programmer in the near future I'm sure. I'm not sure why it is taken as long as it has since there are products out for the 700 Grizzly already. I guess it is a different beast though with twice the weight so different power curves are probably necessary.

For now, you can add a clutch sheave to get more top end out of it. I know Hunterworks has one for a little over $200 and will give you 6 to 8 mph on the top end.

true(i have one) but with the stock cdi and rev limiter it would be pretty much pointless cause it would never go over 40mph

Yeah, I see where you are coming from, but everything I've read says you still pick up 6-8 mph....maybe a little more. Somewhere near 50mph depending on tire. See what Rubicon above says. I think because it changes your rpm (less rpm at cruise...added benefit=quieter) you can pick up on the top end.
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PostSubject: Re: new 700 rhino   new 700  rhino EmptyWed Mar 05, 2008 12:15 pm

good info tiger
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PostSubject: Re: new 700 rhino   new 700  rhino EmptyWed Mar 05, 2008 12:16 pm

ya i knew it runs faster at lower rpm but i didnt think 10mph thats way more then i woulda thought...but hey i think my sheave was worth the $$ with the anad cdi on mine with 29s and a roof i hit right around 55 on gps and like 48 on speedo
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PostSubject: Re: new 700 rhino   new 700  rhino EmptyFri Mar 07, 2008 2:52 am

There is no true "plug and Play ECU out yet even for the Grizzly. There are some devices out that you can program the fuel maps for adding a new pipe or intake, but nothing that changes Rev limits or power curves and timing adjustments. The ECU's for fuel injection are much more difficult to produce and program than a DC CDI controler. The only company I know of that has pulled this off is Velocity devices out of Canada. They have manufactured one for the 700 Suzuki Kingquad and Arctic cat 700 (same motor) Their performance out of these ECU's have been awesome. They are currently working on one for the Rhino 700, and should have a head up on the competition because they have already produced a successful ECU for the Suzuki. Don't know how long it will take them to get one on the market, but when they do, expect to put out at least $500.00 for one. Here is their web site

http://www.velocitydevices.com/
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PostSubject: Re: new 700 rhino   new 700  rhino EmptyFri Mar 07, 2008 7:51 am

wvyankee2 wrote:
There is no true "plug and Play ECU out yet even for the Grizzly. There are some devices out that you can program the fuel maps for adding a new pipe or intake, but nothing that changes Rev limits or power curves and timing adjustments. The ECU's for fuel injection are much more difficult to produce and program than a DC CDI controler. The only company I know of that has pulled this off is Velocity devices out of Canada. They have manufactured one for the 700 Suzuki Kingquad and Arctic cat 700 (same motor) Their performance out of these ECU's have been awesome. They are currently working on one for the Rhino 700, and should have a head up on the competition because they have already produced a successful ECU for the Suzuki. Don't know how long it will take them to get one on the market, but when they do, expect to put out at least $500.00 for one. Here is their web site

http://www.velocitydevices.com/

That's good info. That explains why nothing is out for the Rhino since Rev Limits are it's biggest hurdle.
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PostSubject: Re: new 700 rhino   new 700  rhino EmptyFri Mar 07, 2008 11:35 am

one thign is certain - with all the R&D going into it to produce...I see them being every bit of $300-$400 each
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