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PostSubject: Help finding items   Help finding items EmptySun Feb 28, 2010 6:06 pm

Well I have decided to get a clutch kit,and a lift kit for my rhino......been looking at the EPI sport utility......dont really need the mudder kit,or the duner kit.......i have 26" Bighorns......also about the lift kit, i remember ChrisC had a High Lifter kit on his old rhino,but i have heard lots of good about the Moose lift......but there might be some other out there i dont know about,so what would your reccomendations be for a good quality lift and clutch kit..... Feedback
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PostSubject: Re: Help finding items   Help finding items EmptySun Feb 28, 2010 6:08 pm

Smith, ChrisC had a moose lift. I have one also and had to fab it up because it failed.

Now why do you thing the duner will not work for you????

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PostSubject: Re: Help finding items   Help finding items EmptySun Feb 28, 2010 6:35 pm

I have the Moose lift on the front of the Rhino. No problems on the front, but with the Progressive shocks my rear failed. I added HD EPI springs to the Progressive rear shocks....got just as much G/C as I had with the rear 2" lift. I have a clutch kit I will sell you. It is the one from Fix Powersports. It goes for 269 on ebay.....I will let it go for 150 OBO.
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PostSubject: Re: Help finding items   Help finding items EmptySun Feb 28, 2010 6:36 pm

i thought the duner kit was for the guys out west...that ride wide open in the dunes......i was looking at the sport utility kit because I want LOW end power,dont really care about top end speed.....and would you reccomend the moose lift?
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PostSubject: Re: Help finding items   Help finding items EmptySun Feb 28, 2010 6:45 pm

Well, you haul quite a bit of weight. Most of the guys that had issues with the rear Moose lift failing was a cause of different shocks. I have Progressives, DoddS had Progressives, Ridepate had Fox, Big-R has sport shocks. I have heard of no one having the Moose lift fail on a Rhino with regular factory shocks. The duner kit is not necessarily for people out west. That is what I have in mine. I don't really have any complaints. The other clutch kit is supposed to be for mid-range and also add some on the top. I have never installed it so I cannot speak of performance gains first hand.
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PostSubject: Re: Help finding items   Help finding items EmptySun Feb 28, 2010 6:50 pm

Its a duner kit / hill climbing kit. Benefits both styles of riding greatly
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PostSubject: Re: Help finding items   Help finding items EmptySun Feb 28, 2010 6:54 pm

ok....i think im gonna ddecide between the EPI sport utility.....and the EPI utility clutch kit........i am lookn at them from sidebysidesports.com
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PostSubject: Re: Help finding items   Help finding items EmptySun Feb 28, 2010 7:02 pm

ClayW wrote:
Its a duner kit / hill climbing kit. Benefits both styles of riding greatly

Clay is right. I have a unleashed UTV Duner/hill climbing kit. It gives you more bottom end and top. I have argue with many people that did not every own this kit about the bottom end. I have one and it works great. I can not comment on the others because I have not tried them.

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PostSubject: Re: Help finding items   Help finding items EmptySun Feb 28, 2010 7:20 pm

I installed a EPI Sport Clutch Kit on my brothers Rhino and it works great but it starts cutting out about 35 MPH with the stock CDI. I would go with the unleashed UTV Machined Sheave that clayboy was talkeing about. I have rode brimestone when they had their rhino and I think that is the was to go. just my 2cents
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PostSubject: Re: Help finding items   Help finding items EmptySun Feb 28, 2010 7:40 pm

goodness,i am confused now.....dont know to get sport utity kit from epi,or get a machined shaeve from either hunterworks or unleashed utv?????
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PostSubject: Re: Help finding items   Help finding items EmptyMon Mar 01, 2010 12:51 pm

With the 700, I'd give the Hunterworks greaseless rollers a try. Much less expensive than a machined sheave and clutch kit combo...
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PostSubject: Re: Help finding items   Help finding items EmptyMon Mar 01, 2010 3:15 pm

what do the HW greaseless rollers do for me Kent? more Low end power
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PostSubject: Re: Help finding items   Help finding items EmptyMon Mar 01, 2010 3:34 pm

smith700 wrote:
what do the HW greaseless rollers do for me Kent? more Low end power
They give you the equivalent of a machined sheave with lighter roller weights combination -- better acceleration at lower speeds and more top speed.
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PostSubject: Re: Help finding items   Help finding items EmptyMon Mar 01, 2010 3:46 pm

i dont really care about top speed, but want alot of LOW END POWER for turning the heavy bighorns and slow rock crawling.
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PostSubject: Re: Help finding items   Help finding items EmptyMon Mar 01, 2010 4:20 pm

smith700 wrote:
i dont really care about top speed, but want alot of LOW END POWER for turning the heavy bighorns and slow rock crawling.


They'll give you more useful low end power (if you get lighter roller weights), because they keep the RPM up, keeping the engine more in its power range.

Nothing is going to make a real dramatic increase in 0-5 MPH power unless you go inside the engine, IMO, and with fuel injection that calls for remapping the electronic controls and lots of other issues.

You can't really increase torque (what you usually consider as "power") at low RPMs -- all you can do is increase the RPMs being used at a given speed, and that higher RPM produces more torque and HP. Lighter rollers do that...

You can combine lighter roller weights with a stronger secondary spring, like an EPI spring, increasing the RPM even more...

IMO, I'd try the roller weights first, then if you want even more, you can add the stiffer spring later.

You may want to add a shim at the same time. (Google for "shim mod"). The shim actualy holds the primary sheaves apart a little more, letting the belt drop down lower in it, which essentially changes the "gearing" at low RPM. However, you have have to be careful because if you put too much/many shims in it, the belt wil ride so high on the secondary sheave that it'll rub the cover.
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PostSubject: Re: Help finding items   Help finding items EmptyMon Mar 01, 2010 6:34 pm

Kent, the utv unleashed sheave is machined in a way that allows the belt to set lower. It gives you a noticeable difference in the bottom end. I have this set up and it works really good. However, it does have the roller flop at 42 ish.

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PostSubject: Re: Help finding items   Help finding items EmptyMon Mar 01, 2010 8:05 pm

Big-R wrote:
Kent, the utv unleashed sheave is machined in a way that allows the belt to set lower. It gives you a noticeable difference in the bottom end. I have this set up and it works really good. However, it does have the roller flop at 42 ish.

So does my UTV Crap machined sheave, on both accounts, due to machining back next to the hub -- better low end, but roller flop at the higher speeds. From talking to them at the time, they said it's about the same as a 1-to-1.5mm shim. They've now started using the shim instead on the 450, I think, with a different machined ramp profile so they can try to avoid the roller flop up higher.

It's six of one and half dozen of the other...
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PostSubject: Re: Help finding items   Help finding items EmptyFri Mar 05, 2010 6:59 pm

i have no ideal what yall are talking about now. i am in the same boat as smith 700 i want more low end power after installing my bounty hunter tires. but i really don't want to go any slower than 41 or 42 mph either so what in the world can you do to fix the problem.
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PostSubject: Re: Help finding items   Help finding items EmptyFri Mar 05, 2010 10:28 pm

rhinorider259 wrote:
i have no ideal what yall are talking about now. i am in the same boat as smith 700 i want more low end power after installing my bounty hunter tires. but i really don't want to go any slower than 41 or 42 mph either so what in the world can you do to fix the problem.

Well Kent and I were talking about clutch kits and grease less sliders. I have never had the sliders. You can look them up at hunterworks.com However, I do have an utv unleashed clutch kit for my 08 700. I really like this kit. You can also add a Dyateck. Both of these would give you a little more pep in the old Rhino.

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