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PostSubject: Clutch kits??   Clutch kits?? EmptyThu Apr 17, 2008 10:50 pm

I am looking for a little more low end grunt on my 04, especially in reverse. I am looking at an EPI Sport/Utility clutch kit. I am only running 27s, and all I do is trail ride, but I have some pretty serious hills, and some technical stuff, with a good dose of mud mixed in for good measure. I have never had any dealings with clutch kits, so am I on the right path? scratch
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PostSubject: Re: Clutch kits??   Clutch kits?? EmptyThu Apr 17, 2008 10:55 pm

have u added a new cdi box? i used hunter works and couldnt believe the diff in reverse

http://hunterworks.com/inc/sdetail/21002
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PostSubject: Re: Clutch kits??   Clutch kits?? EmptyThu Apr 17, 2008 11:00 pm

Not yet. I thought those just gave you a higher top end? scratch
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PostSubject: Re: Clutch kits??   Clutch kits?? EmptyThu Apr 17, 2008 11:36 pm

Hey Bad B the cdis for the 07 eliminates the reverse rev limit. Not sure about the 04 got mine at UTV unleased and went with a stage II. $179.00
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PostSubject: Re: Clutch kits??   Clutch kits?? EmptyThu Apr 17, 2008 11:49 pm

Bad,

I've never really seen any kit that gives more on the bottom, I might be wrong, but most are machined to lower the rpm's on the top, which equals more speed. I know I've seen a" big-wheel" kit somewhere. might have been BRP, that helps when running 27's or bigger, but from what I understand it re-gears so to speak,and makes the gearing with 27's or bigger,like you only have 25's????
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PostSubject: Re: Clutch kits??   Clutch kits?? EmptyFri Apr 18, 2008 9:08 am

I also ride trails with mud and a few hills that I probably have no business taking the Rhino up. I wanted more low end and the reality is that clutch kits and sheaves will have no effect from 0 to 10mph or so. At that point the belt is at the bottom of the sheave and can go no lower -- that's as low of gearing as you can get. I did add a sheave and lighter 12g weights so that it would stay in the lower part of the sheave longer (more rpm) and it did seem to help on the long kinda steep hills. The long really steep hills I only improved by adding a jet kit. My Rhino was a little rich and I leaned it out a little for more power. The hills I would crest at 3mph (full throttle) I can now crest at 7mph (full throttle) in low range.

I also run 25" XTR's. Any larger tire will take alot of low-end away. The best improvement you will see is going to 25" tires. The 660 on the Rhino has to work hard and taller tires just takes more power toi overcome.

As for big wheel kits they are normally stronger springs or lighter weights. They just hold the belt lower in the sheave for longer. They will have no impact from approx 0 to 10mph.
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PostSubject: Re: Clutch kits??   Clutch kits?? EmptyFri Apr 18, 2008 9:13 am

Yea, your on the right track, but if you want serious bottom end use this. http://www.sidebysidesports.com/epibigfomonc.html you will lose top end though, so you may want to add a new sheave also to help get top end back. This will(I believe) reconfigure your internal wet clutch, and may be a little techincal to install.
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PostSubject: Re: Clutch kits??   Clutch kits?? EmptyFri Apr 18, 2008 10:12 am

I looked at that EPI Mudder Clutch Kit but if I remember correctly it raises the stall speed on the internal clutch. Raising the stall speed causes the engine braking to not work (or not well) and thus you will have to use your brakes alot more. It also is alot more complicated to install. I stayedaway from it since I love Engine Braking -- especially in Low Range down steep hills.

It has the warning:
• This kit is not recommended for trail riding.
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PostSubject: Re: Clutch kits??   Clutch kits?? EmptyFri Apr 18, 2008 11:05 am

roamerr summed up everythign I have done to mine to achieve a lil more low end - the lower clutch weights help a lil, the machined sheave gives me a lil more top end, the cdi allows it all to be revved....if you truly want it all - DRY CLUTCH SYSTEM - I am just not willign to pony up for that though.
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PostSubject: Re: Clutch kits??   Clutch kits?? EmptyFri Apr 18, 2008 6:00 pm

i ve read many places,the only really good way to achieve low end power is a mudbuster cam and a piston and springs :D
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PostSubject: Re: Clutch kits??   Clutch kits?? EmptyFri Apr 18, 2008 9:08 pm

Wow, alot of good info. How about a Hunterworks CDI (the only one I will buy) and an EPI Sport/Utility clutch kit?
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PostSubject: Re: Clutch kits??   Clutch kits?? EmptyFri Apr 18, 2008 10:21 pm

If you havent got a cdi..get the trifire from HUNTERWORKs

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PostSubject: Re: Clutch kits??   Clutch kits?? EmptyFri Apr 18, 2008 11:31 pm

Wheelin wrote:
If you havent got a cdi..get the trifire from HUNTERWORKs

+1 i got the tri fire plus and o man what a difference it made one of the best mods ive done
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PostSubject: Re: Clutch kits??   Clutch kits?? EmptySat Apr 19, 2008 10:58 am

I think I'll try the Hunterworks Tri-Fire when they get some in stock (sold out til May according to their site). I was actually thinking of getting one anyway, so if it will help a little on the bottom end, that's even better. Another cool thing is, I only live about 40 minutes from Hunterworks, so I can check out his stuff in person while I'm there. Thanks for all the input, guys. :afro:
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PostSubject: Re: Clutch kits??   Clutch kits?? EmptySat Apr 19, 2008 2:37 pm

Hunterworks Tri-Fire here also. Awesome Exclamation
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PostSubject: Re: Clutch kits??   Clutch kits?? EmptyMon Apr 21, 2008 7:24 am

I too like the Tri Fire and a Hunterwoks fan in general (more 60% of my mods are HW), but for cdi's Dynatek is every bit as reliable and same output numbers - Hunterworks was out when I tried to order mine - so I got Dynatek - havent complained yet. Also dont overlook the basics too - intake & exhaust.... if you already have or mentioned it - disregard, just thought id thorw it out there as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Clutch kits??   Clutch kits?? EmptyMon Apr 21, 2008 10:02 am

Is there a lot of diffrence in just a tip vs a slip on or full exhaust. :afro:
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PostSubject: Re: Clutch kits??   Clutch kits?? EmptyMon Apr 21, 2008 10:13 am

couldnt agree more - and even more so if you go all the way with new header pipes too!
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PostSubject: Re: Clutch kits??   Clutch kits?? EmptyMon Apr 21, 2008 11:08 am

rcmass what kind do you have? :afro:
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