Number of posts : 737 Registration date : 2011-02-15 Age : 43 Location : Archdale, NC
Subject: Wildcat review Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:49 pm
A friend of mine found it. It was pretty good. It's from someone at UTV Inc...
Some fellow from UTV wrote this. FYI.
As I sit here my Brain tells me I should not write this .. I should not write the truth .... why ? you ask why? well because I am in the aftermarket UTV Parts Business and I dream of some day getting demo machines from a major manufacture like arctic cat .Ive tried calling most of them with no luck and in all but 1 case never even gotten a return call or email. I also have a few good friends that are Arctic Cat Dealers
Just got back from Glamis Dunes ... The Wildcat lol .... hmm The RZR XP worked great ran great, duned great ... and the wildcat hmm I dont know what to say .... Broken belt ...ya I would guess if in two days I did 100 miles my 5 day trip at the dunes I should have took 3 spare belts with me ... and just to let you guys know I have never had a broken belt at the dunes in any machine .. not my golf cart not my polaris ranger, not my yamaha rhino , not my many polaris rzr's Ive had ....
Ok heres some good news the suspension is the best duner, off road , woop eating, jump taking utv suspension ever as good or better then alot of high dollar sandrails out there ... it eats mile long sections of woops like they are baby food .. it dont buck kick or do any crazy unexpected moves while traveling 55 to 57 mph thru the ruff stuff ... its even better then I could have expected ...
now I say 55 to 57 MPH because with a set of STI V ROLL 14" tires or a set of Fullerton sand tires I bummed from Dave thats is as fast as you will be going on flat ground in the sand .. lol ya 55 ish mph ...
OK to be fair I think I run the dunes harder then most people but that could be all in my head .. I have owned some of the best sandrails on the market built buy tatum motorsports and extreme performance .. everything for 500 hp LS1--588 Donoven Big Blocks to 1000+hp twin turbo cars with 24" of Suspension Travel ..
I showed up to the dunes Wendsday Night after dark and figured Id unload the Wildcat in the Morning and go out and get some Pictures of it in the sand and Leave my Polaris RZR 900 XP in the Trailer and Most likely not be unloading the XP at all the rest of the week .. Ya NOT unload the Polaris RZR XP at all ...hell the wildcat is built for the sand ... 18" if Travel Back 17" Front and 1000ccs of Wildcat ...lol what else could a guy ask for ... OK 1200 CC and 150 HP ...
Ok So I unload the Wildcat in the morning toss my camera in the seat and strap it down with the harnesses and off I go .. at the point the Wildcat has 20 Miles that I put on it driving it around some what easy to break it in ... I head past the Glamis Beach Store thru the flats past the Vendor section and into the small dunes I hit the gas a couple of times and am not sure at this point what to think so I take it easy getting a feel for the machine thru the small dunes feeling the way it handles and how it takes the bumps, dips, holes ect ... and im thinking wooo hoo this suspension is sweet.. I hit the gas a few more times and im not sure what to think it just dont seem like its got much balls .. I cross Sand Highway to the dunes looking for a nice picture spot and I have to climb a few small dunes to get to a nice spot and when I hit the gas again I am not impressed so I put it in 4 wheel drive thinking maybe not enough paddle tire and even with the 4x4 on im still having a hard time ...
ok I get out and try to walk up a few small dunes to take some sweet morning pictures as I climb I start huffing and puffing for air .. man my fat ass is out of shape ... hmm no big deal I dont plan on having to walk around in the dunes I have the new Arctic Cat Wildcat 1000 with 18" of Ground pounding bad ass suspension ...I take a shit load of pictures and think to myself man that is one good looking machine and I need to get me some Arctic Cat Stock because they are going to take over the SXS market NOW ...
Ok I get back in the Wildcat and a short trip im out of the dunes and back on Sand Highway heading to Oldsmobile Hill now let me tell ya the is some of the most wooped out off camber bumps dumps and humps out thier ... I hit the gas and the Wildcat starts to purr and its flying over this shit like its nuttin oh shur im getting tossed around like a rag doll but the cat in landing on all four and taking it all easy .. my stock RZR 900 XP would be a bit more uncontrolled thru this stuff even scarey at times ... But im doing 50 MPH and its eating it up im thinking man this thing needs to race the baja 1000 or something it kicks ass ...
I pull up to olds hill lock it in 4x4 and and think haha Ill just floor the gas pedal here and tear the woops up at the bottom of the hill ...I have never been able to do that in any UTV because the woops are so bad at the bottom you just cant stay in the gas with out the ass end bottoming hard and the ass end kicking up ... lol yep I flew over the top of the woops like I have only seen bas ass sandrails do in the past ..
with the Wildcat ? wide open and the Wildcat starting to go uphill it starts slowing down fast real fast and I about 3/4 of the way up and thinking to myself Im glad I came out early in the morning so nobody can see this shit ... I have to turn to the left a little and start crab walking sideways to get up the hill ...WTF I think to myself ..ya I guess the storys Ive been hearing of people in Wildcats not making it up the hill in Wildcats are true ? No this cant be true ..... So ya im at the top I turn around and hit the gas doing 50 or 60 mph down hill I fly thru the woops and again im thinking this thing is awsome .... It must just be some fresh soft Sand there in the middle of the hill where I tried to go up ... so I try again where I know I can go up on the left side of the hill and same thing its turning around 7000 -7200 rpm and Im thinking im not going to make it up but I keep the pedal mashed and as I come over the top I look at the speedo and it says around 20 MPH ... later in the day my Polaris RZR XP Speedo in the same spot was reading 40ish mph .... all the while im thinking man this thing is a dog .. a wild dog ..but still a dog ... I was also thinking my 2006 Rhino was about this fast going up the hill ...
Ya really its a dog in the dunes...
later in the day my buddies showed up all of them have RZR 900 XPs I figured I would try following them thru a fast dune run ... I was able to keep up most of the time but its just because there is almost as much down hill as up hill so with the great suspension i was able to stay in the gas longer and play catch up on the down hill sections .. I will note that I had to turn down and go around a couple of times to make it up some of the smaller hills the the rzr xp just powered up ....
also to note I did race another Wildcat on the flats while I was there and and both machines were close but for some strange reason his was faster going east to west and mine was faster going west to east ..
while following the Polaris RZR xps thru the dunes I was full throttle 90% of the time and after say 30 Minutes with Miles on the Machine the belt shredded into a 100 pcs ... ... so I was towed out of the dunes .... ya I was towed out of the dunes by a Polaris ..
I will not be taking the machine back to the dunes until I find someway to gain a very noticable amount of power .. and nothing against whom ever is making them but I dont think a wet clutch delete will make this machine go up hill any faster because I dont think at 7000 rpm the wet clutch is slipping
ridepate SSXSRider Staff
Number of posts : 6409 Registration date : 2009-04-23 Age : 64 Location : 1st join date- 1/22/2008- North Ga.
Subject: Re: Wildcat review Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:50 pm
Good review by a prick...............I would not believe anything that nut-sucker says. Where's the video???
Smith700 SSXSRider Member
Number of posts : 2713 Registration date : 2009-08-21 Location : Knoxville,Tn
Subject: Re: Wildcat review Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:54 pm
Yea I doubt that thing is what he calls...."sluggish"????
Hollon SSXSRider Member
Number of posts : 1427 Registration date : 2009-06-13 Age : 63 Location : changes frequently
Subject: Re: Wildcat review Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:55 pm
I think Johnny telling the cold hard truth will only benefit him and his business. I know I actually have more respect for him after reading this post. we kinda had words last week about this machine I ended it with telling him he needed to add some custom tow hooks. I respect the write up and respect the truth! Good Job Johnny
Hollon SSXSRider Member
Number of posts : 1427 Registration date : 2009-06-13 Age : 63 Location : changes frequently
Subject: Re: Wildcat review Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:57 pm
ridepate wrote:
Good review by a prick...............I would not believe anything that nut-sucker says. Where's the video???
didnt run fast enough to do video, still shots only
hobbz
Number of posts : 190 Registration date : 2011-11-11 Age : 43 Location : Flatwoods, KY
Subject: Re: Wildcat review Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:02 pm
ridepate wrote:
Good review by a prick...............I would not believe anything that nut-sucker says. Where's the video???
You mean this???
TBONE21 SSXSRider Member
Number of posts : 737 Registration date : 2011-02-15 Age : 43 Location : Archdale, NC
Subject: Re: Wildcat review Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:04 pm
It was a good review. I'm glad I didn't buy one. I would of been pissed.
Craig_C
Number of posts : 737 Registration date : 2010-06-21 Age : 41 Location : Corydon, IN
Subject: Re: Wildcat review Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:06 pm
Take it with a grain of salt guys.
If what he says is true though, Im not impressed. However, its one guy, with one WildCat. I have buddies with 700 Rhinos, one was turd....like a 450, and the other would put some modded 700's to shame. Even though they are built to the same specs on the same line, none of them are the same.
ridepate SSXSRider Staff
Number of posts : 6409 Registration date : 2009-04-23 Age : 64 Location : 1st join date- 1/22/2008- North Ga.
Subject: Re: Wildcat review Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:41 pm
I can see I tugged on the thongs of the RZR-Boys........Kinda funny.....
Hollon SSXSRider Member
Number of posts : 1427 Registration date : 2009-06-13 Age : 63 Location : changes frequently
Subject: Re: Wildcat review Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:54 pm
didnt tug my shorts, I already knew what it would be. been there done that. go get ya one and ride hard, enjoy it. good luck
ridepate SSXSRider Staff
Number of posts : 6409 Registration date : 2009-04-23 Age : 64 Location : 1st join date- 1/22/2008- North Ga.
Subject: Re: Wildcat review Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:31 pm
Hollon wrote:
didnt tug my shorts, I already knew what it would be. been there done that. go get ya one and ride hard, enjoy it. good luck
Don't need one. What I've got will go anywhere, anytime, anyday, anything out there will........Might not have all the fancy bling, might not be the fastest nor cost the most, but it will get home in one piece and haul a 1/2 cord..............
Craig_C
Number of posts : 737 Registration date : 2010-06-21 Age : 41 Location : Corydon, IN
Subject: Re: Wildcat review Mon Jan 23, 2012 7:45 am
ridepate wrote:
I can see I tugged on the thongs of the RZR-Boys........Kinda funny.....
I dont think you tugged anyones thong here. I wouldnt put any thought on what a magazine writer says about anything. Remember, those guys get paid from advertisers, not by being honest.
Big-R SSXSRider Staff
Number of posts : 16074 Registration date : 2008-02-26 Age : 51 Location : Louisville,Ky
Subject: Re: Wildcat review Mon Jan 23, 2012 11:39 pm
TBONE21 wrote:
A friend of mine found it. It was pretty good. It's from someone at UTV Inc...
Some fellow from UTV wrote this. FYI.
also to note I did race another Wildcat on the flats while I was there and and both machines were close but for some strange reason his was faster going east to west and mine was faster going west to east ..
I have very little respect for him and that company. The Cat may very well be a peace of crap but someone else is going to have to tell me.
And WTF is the statement above mean?????
TBONE21 SSXSRider Member
Number of posts : 737 Registration date : 2011-02-15 Age : 43 Location : Archdale, NC
Subject: Re: Wildcat review Mon Jan 23, 2012 11:44 pm
Why is that? I have no idea who he is. Never met him. Just read his review
RZRS-EDGE SUPER P
Number of posts : 1163 Registration date : 2009-06-04 Age : 58
Subject: Re: Wildcat review Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:33 am
Big-R wrote:
TBONE21 wrote:
A friend of mine found it. It was pretty good. It's from someone at UTV Inc...
Some fellow from UTV wrote this. FYI.
also to note I did race another Wildcat on the flats while I was there and and both machines were close but for some strange reason his was faster going east to west and mine was faster going west to east ..
I have very little respect for him and that company. The Cat may very well be a peace of crap but someone else is going to have to tell me.
And WTF is the statement above mean?????
that west to east was down hill and his articrap could beat the RZR as long as it had momentum!!!
Dean SSXSRider Member
Number of posts : 1210 Registration date : 2010-12-18 Age : 53 Location : Jackson, Ky
Subject: Re: Wildcat review Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:15 pm
You go Ride pate you the man here kitty-kitty
Craig_C
Number of posts : 737 Registration date : 2010-06-21 Age : 41 Location : Corydon, IN
Subject: Re: Wildcat review Tue Jan 24, 2012 2:00 pm
Who is he? I know he posted it on RZR forums where the thread went viral. Only thing I found amusing is that they are calling it the PussyCat!
Like I said, advertisers pay the magazine and forum owners salary....dont ever put a bit of thought into a reveiw that someone from one of those places puts out. The Cat may very well be junk, or it may blow the Rzr and any other SXS out of the water.
I remember reading an artical about the Redline machines and how they made the Rzr look like a PowerWheels.......ever seen one of them out on the trail?
CatMostFeared SSXSRider Member
Number of posts : 1827 Registration date : 2010-08-25 Age : 55 Location : Crestwood,Ky
Subject: Re: Wildcat review Tue Jan 24, 2012 2:22 pm
I cant wait to see how the bushing and bearing hold up
GunRunner SSXSRider Member
Number of posts : 5296 Registration date : 2008-01-22 Age : 70 Location : North Georgia,
Subject: Re: Wildcat review Tue Jan 24, 2012 2:23 pm
First year buggy, and arctic cat has never had anything fast, even that 1000 motor in the atv gets gobbled up by 750 cc brute forces. The worst models are always the first year production, then they get better.
Sporto SSXSRider Member
Number of posts : 688 Registration date : 2009-07-10 Location : Somerville, AL..........ROLL TIDE!!!
Subject: Re: Wildcat review Tue Jan 24, 2012 2:51 pm
Craig_C wrote:
Who is he? I know he posted it on RZR forums where the thread went viral. Only thing I found amusing is that they are calling it the PussyCat!
Like I said, advertisers pay the magazine and forum owners salary....dont ever put a bit of thought into a reveiw that someone from one of those places puts out. The Cat may very well be junk, or it may blow the Rzr and any other SXS out of the water.
I remember reading an artical about the Redline machines and how they made the Rzr look like a PowerWheels.......ever seen one of them out on the trail?
I believe he is one of the main dudes at UTV INC.
8ball_99 SSXSRider Member
Number of posts : 1370 Registration date : 2010-05-04 Age : 44 Location : Toney, AL
Subject: Re: Wildcat review Tue Jan 24, 2012 3:13 pm
Doing some searching around on the internet.. It seems most are saying the same that it is gutless on big hills.. Sucks, Maybe its something simple they can fix like the clutch setup..
As far as UTV inc.. Not big fans of them either. Johny comes off as a cocky rich prick. Requardless though what you think about him.. Knocking the wildcat does not help him in the least.. Infact he has removed his own post for the forums now.. He doesn't just sell RZR stuff. He makes parts for everything from sand rails to RZRs.. All those high rollers out west selling their modded up RZRs and buying new stock wildcats just means more money for his shop.. He has zero reason to post a review that pretty much tells everyone to keep what they have.. Infact the wild cat he reviewed was the one he bought to use for a template for product. That same thread where that review was posted had pictures of the machine with a UTV.inc cage, roof, ect.
Craig_C
Number of posts : 737 Registration date : 2010-06-21 Age : 41 Location : Corydon, IN
Subject: Re: Wildcat review Tue Jan 24, 2012 3:56 pm
Sounds like someone needs to buy one...and have our own shootout!!
nitefab SSXSRider Member
Number of posts : 120 Registration date : 2009-06-10 Age : 63 Location : Pinch, WV
Subject: Re: Wildcat review Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:03 pm
I have read about this and it seems that Airdam the clutch guy says the wildcat puts down about 3-4hp less at the wheels then the XP900. He says the clutching and gearing are totally wrong for the wildcat to accelerate as good as the XP900. That was his take on it from what I read.
Big-R SSXSRider Staff
Number of posts : 16074 Registration date : 2008-02-26 Age : 51 Location : Louisville,Ky
Subject: Re: Wildcat review Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:43 pm
nitefab wrote:
I have read about this and it seems that Airdam the clutch guy says the wildcat puts down about 3-4hp less at the wheels then the XP900. He says the clutching and gearing are totally wrong for the wildcat to accelerate as good as the XP900. That was his take on it from what I read.
That is my thought. The HP is not that big of a difference so..... clutch!
MuddyBuddy SSXSRider Member
Number of posts : 2085 Registration date : 2010-01-03 Age : 37 Location : Nashville, TN
Subject: Re: Wildcat review Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:26 am
Craig_C wrote:
Sounds like someone needs to buy one...and have our own shootout!!