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PostSubject: 2011 rzr getting hot   2011 rzr getting hot EmptySun Aug 26, 2012 9:54 pm

I have a 2011 rzr s when I'm riding a slow speeds on tight trails it starts to get hot. The radiator isn't clogged up and the fan kicks on and the coolant level is right. Anybody with and help would be great
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 rzr getting hot   2011 rzr getting hot EmptySun Aug 26, 2012 9:58 pm

It should run about 195-205. the fan should kick on at 205 and turn off at 195.
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 rzr getting hot   2011 rzr getting hot EmptySun Aug 26, 2012 10:10 pm

It's getting hotter than that any body got any suggestions on a solution?
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 rzr getting hot   2011 rzr getting hot EmptyMon Aug 27, 2012 7:40 am

Are you sure the radiator is cleen? Might check around the edges of the tank. Don't take much to make a difference with such a small radiator.
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 rzr getting hot   2011 rzr getting hot EmptyMon Aug 27, 2012 9:43 am

Yes the radiator is clean. Do you think it could be the thermostat? I've took it tO my local dealer and it never got hot on them.
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 rzr getting hot   2011 rzr getting hot EmptyMon Aug 27, 2012 10:09 am

I think that there may be a problem with the fan relay. I believe some others have found theirs is under the floor board, yes, where it gets water on it, and found that it rusts out. The ones that I know of have found that after the relay is rusted, it will not let the fan run at full speed or will not let it come on at all. Run a wire direct to the fan, with a switch and see if it runs faster. If it does, buy a new relay and relocate it higher. No guarantee, but hope it helps.
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 rzr getting hot   2011 rzr getting hot EmptyMon Aug 27, 2012 10:18 am

Gimpy wrote:
I think that there may be a problem with the fan relay. I believe some others have found theirs is under the floor board, yes, where it gets water on it, and found that it rusts out. The ones that I know of have found that after the relay is rusted, it will not let the fan run at full speed or will not let it come on at all. Run a wire direct to the fan, with a switch and see if it runs faster. If it does, buy a new relay and relocate it higher. No guarantee, but hope it helps.

exactly what he said.. the 2011s are the ONly year model that has this defect.. The relay is under the drivers seat at the frame rail.. Worse possible spot. Yours could still be working sometimes that might be why it didn't do it at the dealer.. That or the fan is just running at reduced speed and the dealer did not put enough of a load on the motor to get it hot.. Climbing up and down hills in the woods is a little different then driving around a parking lot..
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 rzr getting hot   2011 rzr getting hot EmptyMon Aug 27, 2012 11:06 am

I've been fooling with it this morning and have found that the relay may be my problem fan kicks on the first three cycles like it should. Then after that it kicks on very erratic and only stays on for a few seconds.
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 rzr getting hot   2011 rzr getting hot EmptyMon Aug 27, 2012 12:30 pm

Def relocate the CB, I ran mine into the battery compartment and also wired in a override fan switch so I can kick it on before hitting long steep hills.
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 rzr getting hot   2011 rzr getting hot EmptyMon Aug 27, 2012 4:53 pm

Someone got a picture of the relay?
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 rzr getting hot   2011 rzr getting hot EmptyMon Aug 27, 2012 4:57 pm

Mine overheated but the dealer said it was the water pump seal. It has been replaced. I drove it around the neighborhood yesterday and temp got up to 208. Fan kicked on and temp went up to 210, then dropped to 195 in about two minutes and fan kicked off.
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 rzr getting hot   2011 rzr getting hot EmptyMon Aug 27, 2012 5:00 pm

once you figure it out add some water wetter to the coolant it will help too
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 rzr getting hot   2011 rzr getting hot EmptyMon Aug 27, 2012 6:43 pm

2011 rzr getting hot IMAG1001
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 rzr getting hot   2011 rzr getting hot EmptyMon Aug 27, 2012 9:18 pm

will somebody post pics of how the relocated this relay?
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 rzr getting hot   2011 rzr getting hot EmptyMon Aug 27, 2012 11:20 pm

There is a guy on RZR forum that has pics on how to relocate the Fan CB. I did this to mine. Radio shack project box and some wire and marine grade shrink wrap connectors. located it behind the drivers seat up high.
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 rzr getting hot   2011 rzr getting hot EmptyTue Aug 28, 2012 6:40 am

We had to replace this same relay on my buddies 2011. I went to O'reilly's and bought two of them for less than $5.

Here's the thread on the relocation:

http://www.rzrforums.net/general-rzr-discussion/54173-2011-fan-issue-circuit-breaker-location-problem.html
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 rzr getting hot   2011 rzr getting hot EmptyTue Aug 28, 2012 8:54 am

Guys, that is not a relay but rather a circuit breaker. Looks like a one-n-done (over current once and it's blown) circuit but can't be sure. Possibly a reseting breaker but I doubt it.
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 rzr getting hot   2011 rzr getting hot EmptyTue Aug 28, 2012 8:56 am

Was just thinking, no need to relocate it. Cut it out and solder the wires together. Then put an inline 30A fuse on the fan power wire.
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 rzr getting hot   2011 rzr getting hot EmptyTue Aug 28, 2012 10:01 am

Its a circuit breaker. Works just like a fuse but resets itself You should be able to buy a sealed marine version that would solve the problem. Or just buy a 4 dollar one at autozone and dip it in plastic dip.
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 rzr getting hot   2011 rzr getting hot EmptyThu Aug 30, 2012 5:33 pm

never seen a 2 wire relay before. 3,4 or 5 wires. ...
looks like a cycling circuit breaker to me.
next time, i'm working on mine, i pull mine out and check.

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PostSubject: Re: 2011 rzr getting hot   2011 rzr getting hot EmptyFri Aug 31, 2012 1:26 am

Ahem.....It is acutally a Bimetallic Thermal Overload Relay. It is thermally triggered by load, which does not mean the relays bad, it could be the fan-motor drawing too much and tripping it out...I suspect the rads stopped-up or the fan motors junk. Have you pulled the radiator and verified????

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PostSubject: Re: 2011 rzr getting hot   2011 rzr getting hot EmptyFri Aug 31, 2012 11:34 am

Its not his fan... The breaker gets mud and water in it.. This causes the breaker to heat up cause of the poor conection.. This trips it.. Either that or the poor connection causes the fan to run at reduced speed.. Its really not that much to figure out... Stick a new one in if the problem goes away seal the new one up with plastic dip.. If the new breaker doesn't solve the problem then yes the fan might be going out.. Really though its almost a given if its a 2011 and overheating problems its that breaker under the drivers seat....... Its been a known defect since the 11s came out..
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 rzr getting hot   2011 rzr getting hot EmptyThu Sep 20, 2012 9:51 pm

Well, mine started having the same symptoms. Dug the circuit breaker out of the harness from beneath the mud, yes, it is a circuit breaker. I found both the pins rusted and broken. the only reason it had been getting some contact was that it was taped very tight in the harness. I just cut mine out, and replaced it with an inline 20 amp fuse. and I located it high enough to not be a problem in the future.
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 rzr getting hot   2011 rzr getting hot EmptyFri Sep 21, 2012 9:26 pm

misterp wrote:
Well, mine started having the same symptoms. Dug the circuit breaker out of the harness from beneath the mud, yes, it is a circuit breaker. I found both the pins rusted and broken. the only reason it had been getting some contact was that it was taped very tight in the harness. I just cut mine out, and replaced it with an inline 20 amp fuse. and I located it high enough to not be a problem in the future.

Is it self-resetting? If you ever hit water with the fan running or something causes it drag down it will kick out the fuse/breaker. The breaker in it is a self resetting type so you wouldn't have to replace a fuse.
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 rzr getting hot   2011 rzr getting hot EmptyWed Oct 10, 2012 7:52 pm

yes, it works by heat, excessive load causes it to trip, when it cools, it will reset, if the excessive load is still there, they process will just continue on and on. If you suspect a short on that circuit, just touch the breaker, if it is hot enough to burn you, it has a short or excessive load. The pins on mine has rusted through.
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