Can Am Vs Polaris

I hope I dont get shot for saying this, but I think the Can Am Maverick is bad ass!!! If I were to make a new purchase today I would probably buy the Maverick XRS 1000. I personally think the build quality and creature comforts are superior to Polaris! I currently have a severely modded S model, so I'm not bashing Polaris by any means. I've researched and been around the Rzr 900's and think everything from the cockpit to the suspension on the Maverick is designed better. Let's hear it guys, what's your opinions?

Any and all brands are built better then Polaris...........

The only thing that kills the Maverick for me is that visco-lock system. It's poor by design. Nothing out there is better than Polaris' 4WD system, IMO. Why Can-Am did not put the QE (I think that's what it's called) diff in that thing is the big-question.

ridepate wrote:

The only thing that kills the Maverick for me is that visco-lock system. It's poor by design. Nothing out there is better than Polaris' 4WD system, IMO. Why Can-Am did not put the QE (I think that's what it's called) diff in that thing is the big-question.

Jimbo they got the memo, and nobody has actually bought a maverick yet but at the same time can am has not said that their is NOT a QE in it. The 2 friends I have that have test drove it say that it does in fact have a part number on it of a QE class front diff. Ill believe it when I see it also however. The maverick is good but can am put a bad taste in my mouth. I was holding out for the "new" polaris but if the jagged what ever the hell its called is the new model for the year then to hell with that. But now I have to decide to take a chance with Can Am again or just get a tride and true 900 xp.

i am with jimbo i love the can am but the visco loc is a no go for me no way i would by that thing with that 4wd system in it.

DOG wrote:

i am with jimbo i love the can am but the visco loc is a no go for me no way i would by that thing with that 4wd system in it.

The visco is junk, it makes since at the same time that the new 2013 commanders have the QE auto locker in it but the maverick wouldn't? Thats what has me thinking they will all come with a QE. Also the QE is not as good as the polaris 4wd but its dam close and a lotttttt better than the standard can am 4wd visco crap.

I'll try to find the link. Over at High-Lifter someone has one already , he tried the front diff by hand and it takes 4-rotations of the free-wheel before it locks-up. Better than the Visco??

http://forum.highlifter.com/CanAm-Maverick-with-295-Outlaw-s-Real-Pics-m4844496.aspx

ridepate wrote:

I'll try to find the link. Over at High-Lifter someone has one already , he tried the front diff by hand and it takes 4-rotations of the free-wheel before it locks-up. Better than the Visco??

visco says 4, in real life its like 8. SO anything less than 6 is A-OK

I didn't even consider the maverick.. I know 6 different people that bought commanders. I've been on the trails with 5 of them.. They all had tons of problems and the 4wd is pure junk. We give muddy a hard time and he has tried his best to stick to his guns.. Fact is he is on his second engine and has machine has probably been in the shop more then on the trail.. I was at windrock with two commanders with temps in the 20s last year.. Both were overheating. Everyone keeps saying canams are built so much better, I just haven't seen it.. I would not buy one until its proven a good machine.. Besides I don't buy first year models of anything. Honestly though I really to hope they turn out to be awesome. We really need machines that compete with RZRs. If they offer better machines for the same price thats even better.. It will force popo to improve or lower prices. If a 15k maverick performs better then a 15k XP they would have to do something.. I REALLY hope they get into a price war so these things get cheaper or at the very least quit creeping up in price every year.. I wan't a better machine for what we pay now.

Until it hits the trails and is tested by hard core riders the Maverick is still behind, the hp is great and it looks good but a lot of the Canned-hams around my neck of the woods seem to have a lot of issues while out on the trails. I own a popo but if the Maverick holds up and the 4 wheel drive system improves then I will be interested.

I watched a Canam Commander about jump off the mountain at Brimstone, the way that the 4 wheel drive engaged. Off camber, I could only see the passenger side, (low side, but looked like the high side front engaged pushing the low side off the trail further and up a bank rut and almost a roll over before he got out of it, he even thought it was going to roll. Or, he was in two wheel drive. Would take some getting use to.

If I had a choice I would choose a 4 wheel drive system like Yamaha, I engage what I want when I want.

Blah blah blah..........

Have yet to see a Canned Ham go where we do.

I agree with many of you guys. We don't know anything until it hits the woods.

I know that I thought the RZR would not be able to go where the Rhino would. Also, I thought the 4wd system of the RZR would not work either. Man I was wrong about that. Therefore, I will hold my opinion until I drive one.

The sad thing is, there is a great machine to compete with the XP. It is called a Wild Cat. However, no place sales them.......

OK guys they are out now a few being bought....here it is, hardpack dirt, clean start......it's pretty quick, I'm curious how much power they will make with a few hours on them and the motor loosen's up?

Here is both races and statement from the video guy:::::


Here are 2 quick videos of the Maverick vs XP. Was a short run (about 100 yards), and in the first video the xp jumped the line and kept it closer, where as in video 2 the Maverick pulled pretty good,. In a longer stretch, the Maverick pulls away even more. For the record, this Maverick had 1 mile on it with no break in, and a heavier driver.

I have said this time and time again........ I could care less about drag racing. I really could care less which one is faster. The only thing I really care about is how good it gets me through the trails and up the hills.

Big-R wrote:

I have said this time and time again........ I could care less about drag racing. I really could care less which one is faster. The only thing I really care about is how good it gets me through the trails and up the hills.

Power is a plus, but my interest are durability,comfort, ride quality, articulation ect. I am hoping the QE diff is standard in the Maverick. From what I've seen it's pretty close to the Polaris.

Big-R wrote:

I have said this time and time again........ I could care less about drag racing. I really could care less which one is faster. The only thing I really care about is how good it gets me through the trails and up the hills.

Ok Ronnie let's explore the male ego, if is doesn't matter which is faster then why did you get rid of your "S" for the faster 900XP?

I have spent 6 years trying to explain to my company about the male ego, and whenever Polaris makes a bigger, badder, faster machine their customers trade and buy them, then they say right after buying they newer faster machine that they dont care how fast or how much power is has.

If that were true then everyone would have kept their S, beacuse frankly it has all the power you need for riding 15 mph East Coast trails and at 60 inches gets through the woods slightly better......

So back to the earlier, IF the power and speed didnt matter then nobody would care and keep their S.......BUT it does and did matter thus people wanted the machine with more "Sac" the 88hp XP.

BUT now that an OEM has trumped Polaris in the power game suddenly it doesnt matter that the Can Am is faster and has more power? I'm confused......If Polaris release's another machine this weekend at Glamis with more than 101hp that's all people will be talking about or care about.

So if power and speed and performance matters when it's Polaris trumping itself, why does it not matter when another Manufacturer trumps Polaris?

Stakk wrote:

Big-R wrote:

I have said this time and time again........ I could care less about drag racing. I really could care less which one is faster. The only thing I really care about is how good it gets me through the trails and up the hills.

Ok Ronnie let's explore the male ego, if is doesn't matter which is faster then why did you get rid of your "S" for the faster 900XP?

I have spent 6 years trying to explain to my company about the male ego, and whenever Polaris makes a bigger, badder, faster machine their customers trade and buy them, then they say right after buying they newer faster machine that they dont care how fast or how much power is has.

If that were true then everyone would have kept their S, beacuse frankly it has all the power you need for riding 15 mph East Coast trails and at 60 inches gets through the woods slightly better......

So back to the earlier, IF the power and speed didnt matter then nobody would care and keep their S.......BUT it does and did matter thus people wanted the machine with more "Sac" the 88hp XP.

BUT now that an OEM has trumped Polaris in the power game suddenly it doesnt matter that the Can Am is faster and has more power? I'm confused......If Polaris release's another machine this weekend at Glamis with more than 101hp that's all people will be talking about or care about.

So if power and speed and performance matters when it's Polaris trumping itself, why does it not matter when another Manufacturer trumps Polaris?

Stakk, you must have me confused with other people. You and I go way back and have had many conversation about what really matters.

Now you are right about the male ego. Many people out there have no clue about extreme east coast riding. All they know is they want the fastest, most HP machine on the market. Unfortunately that is what sells.

If you think I bought an XP because it was the fastest on the market then you don't know me as well as I thought. If that were the case I would have bought the Can Am Commander. It is faster then an XP.

I bought the XP because it is a rock crawling, hill climbing monster. Better then anything I have drove. Yes, better then the S. I have 15" of ground clearance with 88HP and a longer wheel base to bump me over the rocks or up the hill.

If Z Broz did not make a replacement kit for the crap trailing arms then I would still be driving the S. So no, fastest is not that important to me......

Big-R wrote:

Stakk wrote:

Big-R wrote:

I have said this time and time again........ I could care less about drag racing. I really could care less which one is faster. The only thing I really care about is how good it gets me through the trails and up the hills.

Ok Ronnie let's explore the male ego, if is doesn't matter which is faster then why did you get rid of your "S" for the faster 900XP?

I have spent 6 years trying to explain to my company about the male ego, and whenever Polaris makes a bigger, badder, faster machine their customers trade and buy them, then they say right after buying they newer faster machine that they dont care how fast or how much power is has.

If that were true then everyone would have kept their S, beacuse frankly it has all the power you need for riding 15 mph East Coast trails and at 60 inches gets through the woods slightly better......

So back to the earlier, IF the power and speed didnt matter then nobody would care and keep their S.......BUT it does and did matter thus people wanted the machine with more "Sac" the 88hp XP.

BUT now that an OEM has trumped Polaris in the power game suddenly it doesnt matter that the Can Am is faster and has more power? I'm confused......If Polaris release's another machine this weekend at Glamis with more than 101hp that's all people will be talking about or care about.

So if power and speed and performance matters when it's Polaris trumping itself, why does it not matter when another Manufacturer trumps Polaris?

Stakk, you must have me confused with other people. You and I go way back and have had many conversation about what really matters.

Now you are right about the male ego. Many people out there have no clue about extreme east coast riding. All they know is they want the fastest, most HP machine on the market. Unfortunately that is what sells.

If you think I bought an XP because it was the fastest on the market then you don't know me as well as I thought. If that were the case I would have bought the Can Am Commander. It is faster then an XP.

I bought the XP because it is a rock crawling, hill climbing monster. Better then anything I have drove. Yes, better then the S. I have 15" of ground clearance with 88HP and a longer wheel base to bump me over the rocks or up the hill.

If Z Broz did not make a replacement kit for the crap trailing arms then I would still be driving the S. So no, fastest is not that important to me......

I wasnt trying to single you out just generalizing....But you raise a good question and this is good info for me.....

Question and you can and will answer honestly.....

IF Kawasaki, Yamaha or Honda were to come out with a XP/Maverick type Sport SxS, bout the same size as XP, same or better wheel travel, low CG, auto lock diff, bullet proof tranny, drivetrain, axles, bushings, etc....basically better quality

BUT with a Hmmmm 65-70hp engine and 65mph top speed instead of 88hp and 73mph......

Which machine would the majority buy? The Polaris cause of the higher HP and speed, You might not, but the "Masses" would want the machine with more 'Sac" .......this is what is so hard for the Japanese OEM's to process, they hear one thing then sales prove another thing.......

We hear customers saying horsepower and speed isnt the mopst important thing , we want better quality and durability and then when that is given, the masses still buy the lower quality less durable machine by their own admission.......

Stakk wrote:

Big-R wrote:

Stakk wrote:

Big-R wrote:

I have said this time and time again........ I could care less about drag racing. I really could care less which one is faster. The only thing I really care about is how good it gets me through the trails and up the hills.

Ok Ronnie let's explore the male ego, if is doesn't matter which is faster then why did you get rid of your "S" for the faster 900XP?

I have spent 6 years trying to explain to my company about the male ego, and whenever Polaris makes a bigger, badder, faster machine their customers trade and buy them, then they say right after buying they newer faster machine that they dont care how fast or how much power is has.

If that were true then everyone would have kept their S, beacuse frankly it has all the power you need for riding 15 mph East Coast trails and at 60 inches gets through the woods slightly better......

So back to the earlier, IF the power and speed didnt matter then nobody would care and keep their S.......BUT it does and did matter thus people wanted the machine with more "Sac" the 88hp XP.

BUT now that an OEM has trumped Polaris in the power game suddenly it doesnt matter that the Can Am is faster and has more power? I'm confused......If Polaris release's another machine this weekend at Glamis with more than 101hp that's all people will be talking about or care about.

So if power and speed and performance matters when it's Polaris trumping itself, why does it not matter when another Manufacturer trumps Polaris?

Stakk, you must have me confused with other people. You and I go way back and have had many conversation about what really matters.

Now you are right about the male ego. Many people out there have no clue about extreme east coast riding. All they know is they want the fastest, most HP machine on the market. Unfortunately that is what sells.

If you think I bought an XP because it was the fastest on the market then you don't know me as well as I thought. If that were the case I would have bought the Can Am Commander. It is faster then an XP.

I bought the XP because it is a rock crawling, hill climbing monster. Better then anything I have drove. Yes, better then the S. I have 15" of ground clearance with 88HP and a longer wheel base to bump me over the rocks or up the hill.

If Z Broz did not make a replacement kit for the crap trailing arms then I would still be driving the S. So no, fastest is not that important to me......

I wasnt trying to single you out just generalizing....But you raise a good question and this is good info for me.....

Question and you can and will answer honestly.....

IF Kawasaki, Yamaha or Honda were to come out with a XP/Maverick type Sport SxS, bout the same size as XP, same or better wheel travel, low CG, auto lock diff, bullet proof tranny, drivetrain, axles, bushings, etc....basically better quality

BUT with a Hmmmm 65-70hp engine and 65mph top speed instead of 88hp and 73mph......

Which machine would the majority buy? The Polaris cause of the higher HP and speed, You might not, but the "Masses" would want the machine with more 'Sac" .......this is what is so hard for the Japanese OEM's to process, they hear one thing then sales prove another thing.......

We hear customers saying horsepower and speed isnt the mopst important thing , we want better quality and durability and then when that is given, the masses still buy the lower quality less durable machine by their own admission.......

Danny, I hate to say it but most people are going to buy HP/fast over anything. That is just the way it is. However, I would take a Japanese version of an XP with 65 70 hp. But I put a lot of miles on a machine in a years time and understand the maintenance that comes with the miles. Most just want the baddest they can buy.

I have a good example of the HP buyers you and I are talking about. Last year at Windrock I had a few people ride with me that I didn't know. All RZR S's and one XP. We road 16, 18 and 12. The guy with the XP thought I was F-in crazy. He could not believe we would beat the crap out of our machines for no reason. I told him it was not the bad of a trail and he should have bought a Commander. It was faster and could eat up the gravel roads. I have not seen him again. I think a few in the group gave him Bobby D's web site address...

Most people do want the fastest, highest horsepower available, but not everyone. I can honestly say that I have never had my 2011 LE model above 50mph give or take a few mph. I do not need anything faster. I guess I think about things way too much and realize what could happen if a tire were to blow out at 60mph+ on one of these things. The small chance isnt worth the risk for a little thrill. My average speed is probably in the 20-30mph range. I want GC,ride quality,and durability. I am in the market for a 4 seater, just waiting to see what everyone brings to the game before I decide. Right now it is looking like a Polaris 800 4 seater is going to be my next purchase.

KyMedic wrote:

Most people do want the fastest, highest horsepower available, but not everyone. I can honestly say that I have never had my 2011 LE model above 50mph give or take a few mph. I do not need anything faster. I guess I think about things way too much and realize what could happen if a tire were to blow out at 60mph+ on one of these things. The small chance isnt worth the risk for a little thrill. My average speed is probably in the 20-30mph range. I want GC,ride quality,and durability. I am in the market for a 4 seater, just waiting to see what everyone brings to the game before I decide. Right now it is looking like a Polaris 800 4 seater is going to be my next purchase.

This is great info and I notice you are from Ky and said that it will most likely be a RZR4 800, can you explain why?

I need a 4 seater. Don't need the power of a 900. The can am 4 coming out is unproven. I would never buy a 1st year production. The Teryx 4 sweater doesn't have the suspension of the rzr4. Also I am a very big guy and the Polaris interior fits me better than any other utv I have tried to ride in. I am 6'8" and go 400lbs.

If Honda came out with a comparable machine to the XP with less hp (no less than 10) and max speed of 60 mph. I KNOW me and most of my friends would get one.