2015 polaris's

Big-R wrote:

ChrisC wrote:

seems like 35 HP difference should be very noticeable.......    

I bet you can notice the 20HP difference between the S you have now and the New S.....  

I am sure you can , guy's over at RZR.net say the new 900-S is faster than an XP 900
from 0 to 60 , because of better clutching and better gearing and it weighs less.
even with less HP all 2015 RZR's are limited to 71 MPH
and XP 900 has about 6 to 8 Mph higher top speed cause all 2015 RZR's have speed limiter
built in , With an ECU rework the limiter is removed and can get the HP back in the 80's
at least that is what there saying.  

ChrisC wrote:

Big-R wrote:

ChrisC wrote:

seems like 35 HP difference should be very noticeable.......    

I bet you can notice the 20HP difference between the S you have now and the New S.....  

I am sure you can , guy's over at RZR.net say the new 900-S is faster than an XP 900
from 0 to 60 , because of better clutching and better gearing and it weighs less.
even with less HP all 2015 RZR's are limited to 71 MPH
and XP 900 has about 6 to 8 Mph higher top speed cause all 2015 RZR's have speed limiter
built in , With an ECU rework the limiter is removed and can get the HP back in the 80's
at least that is what there saying.  

The funny part is all the guys on rzr forum that had to be the first ones to have one are bitching about the speed limiter. With no test drives or actual consumer reviews they plunk down $20000 for a machine that's limited to 71mph.
Dealers and everyone else is still clueless about it. Benchmark did get into a ecu and remove the limiter, so that's Gona be $400 more and throw out the warranty. They won't go over 15mph without the seatbelt fastened either, but they've already found a way around that.

Actually Benchmark gets $379 to do a re flash of the ECU.
a 14 1000 will run 80 stock , and a 15 1000 will go 71 stock cause of the limiter.
But they say 15 1000 will smoke a 14 1000 from 0 to 71 cause of much better clutch and gearing.
with ECU re flash a 15 1000 will go 86 MPH , how they know all this i have not a clue.
All i do know is they say a 15 900-s in the woods will eat an XP 900 for lunch and spit out the
bones....   And that is what most people seem to care about.
I counted about 20 to 30 people over there that had a new 900-S on order.
I can't wait to see real world tests on all this stuff.
Those that have them say Polaris has got it right this time , and there
the best upgrades in years. with the new clutch and gearing.
We will see if its real or Talk...  

The 900-S is the perfect size for woods riding , if there right about the power,
and will just equal the old XP 900 , I think its going to be a hit with the south..   

i was sold on the 900S a long time ago. just waiting on the 900S 4. i will still wait for the 2016 because they will update any problems they may have and may even add more hp. the speed limiter i could car less about. i may have hit the limiter on the 3 800s i have had 5 times if that. and im sure the seat belt would just need a wire grounded.

bush wrote:

i was sold on the 900S a long time ago. just waiting on the 900S 4.  i will still wait for the 2016 because they will update any problems they may have and may even add more hp. the speed limiter i could car less about. i may have hit the limiter on the 3 800s i have had 5 times if that. and im sure the seat belt would just need a wire grounded.

Bush the fix on the seat belt is already a done deal several have done fixed it.
you just cut the plug from the wire on the seat belt latch and connect the two wires
together and your done with the 15 MPH crap, As for the speed limiter your right.
The 1000 and the 900-S is both limited to 71 MPH , and i really don't care , it has nothing to do with the power just interrupts the ignition at 71 just like an MSD rev limiter on a car.
so no power lose , i agree we run 20 to 25 in the woods at best and 71 on a gravel
road at winrock or brimstone is flying , My 800 S will run between 60 and 65 flat
out , i may have done it twice in 4 years just to see , So no need for it to run 80...  

And if i decided i didn't want the limiter , i would spend $379 and take
care of that. then you can run in the 80's...   

I really like what I have read about the new S so far, waiting on real world reviews. But could you imagine if it was 88 HP like the 900 XPs? Even though you don't need it, I would still want it MANCARD upgrade   

Baditude wrote:

I really like what I have read about the new S so far, waiting on real world reviews.  But could you imagine if it was 88 HP like the 900 XPs?  Even though you don't need it, I would still want it  MANCARD upgrade   

after they been out a few months , people will get them back to 88,
there just detuned though the computer , just like the rev limiter .
The motor is the same , So they all say.

its going to get interesting in the next few months....   

The motor is not the same Chris. It's the RangerXP Pro-Star 900 motor. Single throttle-body vs. dual. The two motors almost share nothing in-common except a few small parts.

ridepate wrote:

The motor is not the same Chris. It's the RangerXP Pro-Star 900 motor. Single throttle-body vs. dual. The two motors almost share nothing in-common except a few small parts.

I see pate.....    , Well there's the first thing
the sand fleas got wrong.....   

seen this??? 110 hp!

I'm reading it is the same as the 1k as far as roof and windshield goes so there goes all of my goodies on my S when I sell it. Also, there is no EBS that I thought I read somewheres. There are very few places that I ride where it would be tight in the 1K. You all not interested in the Highlifter edition?  Seems it would be the choice with lower gearing.

if $$ was no factor the HL would be the way to go with the lower gearing and beefed up rear drive chain. have to change tires

i aint seen any of us do 80+ mph at the woods we ride in !

ChrisC wrote:

Big-R wrote:

ChrisC wrote:

seems like 35 HP difference should be very noticeable.......    

I bet you can notice the 20HP difference between the S you have now and the New S.....  

I am sure you can , guy's over at RZR.net say the new 900-S is faster than an XP 900
from 0 to 60 , because of better clutching and better gearing and it weighs less.
even with less HP all 2015 RZR's are limited to 71 MPH
and XP 900 has about 6 to 8 Mph higher top speed cause all 2015 RZR's have speed limiter
built in , With an ECU rework the limiter is removed and can get the HP back in the 80's
at least that is what there saying.  

I am going to give you the Facts that I know.....

XP 900 has more HP, ground clearance and wheel travel then the 900 S.

It is a less machine in my book. However, if you now own a RZR S then the 900 S is a much better machine.

Big-R wrote:

ChrisC wrote:

Big-R wrote:

ChrisC wrote:

seems like 35 HP difference should be very noticeable.......    

I bet you can notice the 20HP difference between the S you have now and the New S.....  

I am sure you can , guy's over at RZR.net say the new 900-S is faster than an XP 900
from 0 to 60 , because of better clutching and better gearing and it weighs less.
even with less HP all 2015 RZR's are limited to 71 MPH
and XP 900 has about 6 to 8 Mph higher top speed cause all 2015 RZR's have speed limiter
built in , With an ECU rework the limiter is removed and can get the HP back in the 80's
at least that is what there saying.  

I am going to give you the Facts that I know.....

XP 900 has more HP, ground clearance and wheel travel then the 900 S.  

It is a less machine in my book.  However, if you now own a RZR S then the 900 S is a much better machine.  

It's still pile     

  .....Wheel-travel is no good when your trailing arms drag on everything.....Arched or not.....

ridepate wrote:

  .....Wheel-travel is no good when your trailing arms drag on everything.....Arched or not.....

My trailing arms don't drag on anything. You must have me mixed up with something stock. I promise you the Rex can't hang..... Just saying, I do own both.   

samiam wrote:

I'm reading it is the same as the 1k as far as roof and windshield goes so there goes all of my goodies on my S when I sell it. Also, there is no EBS that I thought I read somewheres. There are very few places that I ride where it would be tight in the 1K. You all not interested in the Highlifter edition?  Seems it would be the choice with lower gearing.

I think they do have EBS. Someone posted he was very pleased with the EBS on his. Said he was able to keep both feet on the floorboard goin down a steep hill.

They're also saying the highlifter is limited to 45 mph. Whether it's true or not idk, but I'm sure benchmark could get it lined out for $400.

I'm not convinced that the gearing would be a help for steep muddy trails. It's not like it lacks the hp to go right up, the gearing would make it easier to spin the tires. You could negate the gearing with bigger tires but then you would get into the realm of changing the center of gravity.

I agree with Big R about the 900s. No doubt it's a huge improvement over the 800s but the XP900, when equipped with aftermarket trailing arms and radius bars, is a better rock crawler.

Big-R wrote:

ridepate wrote:

  .....Wheel-travel is no good when your trailing arms drag on everything.....Arched or not.....

My trailing arms don't drag on anything.  You must have me mixed up with something stock.  I promise you the Rex can't hang.....  Just saying, I do own both.    

You've never went anywhere I couldn't go in anything I've ever owned....Rangers included. Not yet anyways.....Talent is what it's called....... 

well i rode both today just across the back parking lot at the dealer (couple hundred yards maybe) while they were doing the first service on my 1k and i could not tell a difference in power between mine and both the 15's but it was just a short ride. i will say i am impressed as hell about the new 900s seaming to be just as fast as the 1k and it turns better. so the big advantage to the 1k now is the suspension since the power seems a lot closer anyway they are about 2500 to 3000 difference.

 

i think the trailing arms suspension is weaker than an a-arm setup. each setup works better in some areas than the other. for me i just like the a-arms better for our type of riding.

Well i bout had my mind made up on a new red 1K.
but after hearing this , i may need to test a new 900-S.

If i can't feel a power difference , i may look at a 900-S
cause your right it will turn much better. and it will
be much lighter too.....   

bush wrote:

 

i think the trailing arms suspension is weaker than an a-arm setup. each setup works better in some areas than the other. for me i just like the a-arms better for our type of riding.

I agree with you 100%. A-arms protect your axles much more then Trailing arms no doubt. It is all give and take. I give money to the dealer and he takes!!!!!   

Went by my local dealer yesterday and he didn't have any 15s. He said they are selling about 20 units a week. Hard to believe!