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wvyankee2 SSXSRider Member
Number of posts : 10321 Registration date : 2008-01-22 Age : 64 Location : Mohave County, Arizona
| Subject: Action Alert for Public Access Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:59 am | |
| I recieved an email today from Michelle requesting our action on a Proposed ruling for the Americans with disabilitys act. The email (which I will attach) was a little confusing but the second half of it under where it says ACTION ALERT, is a copy of an email from Anti-Access groups to their members that want them to protest the proposed changes that are being considered. The proposed changes are to Allow americans with disabilitys, including our disabled Veterans to be allowed access to public land areas with motorized vehicles, where motorized vehicles were not normally allowed. The Anti-Access groups are trying to get this changed before it becomes law. When you click on the link in the email to post comments, you have to put CRT docket No. 105 in the submission box. It will then direct you to a place to put your name and address and comment on the proposed changes to the ruling. WE ARE IN FAVOR OF THE CHANGES! I simply put in the comment box that I was in favor of allowing our disabled Americans to have access to all public lands with whatever means and technology was available for them to do so. I think that pretty much covers it. This is alot of reading but it will give you a good idea how determined Anti-Access groups are to keeping motorized vehicles out of our public lands wherever they can. Even at the expense of our disabled Veterans. Here is a copy of the Email from Michelle. I had to separate it into 3 posts due to size. Here is the link to the website to comment. http://www.regulations.gov.When submitting comments electronically, you must include CRT Docket No. 105 in the subject box, and you must include your full name and address. Hello TrailBlazers, This little nugget crossed my desk today and I found it intriguing enough to pass on to you. It appears the anti-access people are up in arms about this proposed “Definition Change” in the ADA rulemaking playbook. If they are upset, it definitely means we should take notice. This Definition Change could mean that our disabled Veterans would be able to use ATV’s or other “power driven mobility devices” on both state and federal public trails systems. I don’t know about you, but I think we should support our disabled Veteran brethren in this cause and make comments to the link supplied below. Pay specific attention to Questions 13 & 18 as that seems to specifically address this issue and has caused great concern. And as the anti-access alert says: Introducing new or relaxed standards would open the door to any and all users and create conflict where none exists now. Hmmmmm…. Michelle
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| | | wvyankee2 SSXSRider Member
Number of posts : 10321 Registration date : 2008-01-22 Age : 64 Location : Mohave County, Arizona
| Subject: Re: Action Alert for Public Access Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:00 pm | |
| Part 2- This is the letter Michelle attached that was sent out to the Anti Access groups so they could protest the changes being considered. Action Alert! Your comments are needed by August 18 on a: Department of Justice Notice of Proposed Rulemaking: Americans with Disabilities Act regarding other power-driven mobility device Introducing new or relaxed standards would open the door to any and all users and create conflict where none exists now. All comments must be received by August 18, 2008. Submit electronic comments to > http://www.regulations.gov.
When submitting comments electronically, you must include CRT Docket
No. 105 in the subject box, and you must include your full name and address.
On June 17, The Department of Justice (DOJ) published in the Federal
Register a Notice of Proposed Rule Making (NPRM) in which they proposed
a broad new category of “other power-driven mobility
devices.
All national scenic and historic trails and other traditional
backcountry areas in our national parks, monuments, forests, and other
public lands may be opened to All Terrain Vehicles (ATVs) and other
“power-driven mobility devices through this proposed
rule. WE NEED YOU TO ACT NOW to tell the Department of Justice that this initiative is potentially devastating to the silent, challenging and primitive values of our scenic and historic trails and to other trails and areas in our forests, parks,
and other public lands.
The DOJ is requesting comments on the proposed added definition of
“other power-driven mobility device. Let DOJ know how you
feel about the proposal to allow Segways® and ATVs and other powered
devices on trails if used by a person who says they have a disability.
Now is your time to share personal experiences and any feelings you
have about potential jeopardy to quiet recreation opportunities for
everyone and user conflicts that could arise.
Please comment on the
proposed definitions and answer the questions from DOJ that are listed below. It's alright if you don't have time to answer all the questions, but the more you answer and the more specific examples you can give, the more input DOJ receives from
you.
While the proposed rule will apply to state and local governments
(Title II of ADA) and to businesses open to the public (Title III), it
does include a broad and we believe precedent-setting new category
of “other power-driven mobility devices.
Reading the Rule, one can see that these people are well meaning but,
for the most part, unfamiliar with the commitment of the silent
“self-propelled users, as citizens, to a conservation land
ethic on our nation’s national forests, parks, and other public lands
particularly in primitive, backcountry settings like our national scenic
and historic trails.
If you worry about ATVs or Segways being used as mobility devices (see
questions #13 and 18 below), you will emphatically let DOJ know there
are real problems with an overly broad definition of “other
power-driven mobility devices.
All comments must be received by August 18, 2008. Submit electronic
comments to
>http://www.regulations.gov.
When submitting comments electronically, you must include CRT Docket
No. 105 in the subject
box, and you must include your full name and address.
For more information on the notice of proposed rulemaking, go to
>http://www.ada.gov/NPRM2008/t2NPRM_federalreg.htm.
The Department of Justice is proposing:
§ 35.104 - Defintions
“Other power driven mobility device means any of a large range of
devices powered by batteries, fuel, or other engines whether or not
designed solely for use by individuals with mobility impairments that
are used by individuals with mobility impairments for the purpose of
locomotion, including golf cars, bicycles, electronic personal
assistance mobility devices (EPAMD’s), or any mobility aid designed to
operate in areas without defined pedestrian routes.
[PNTS Comment: The example of an EPAMD that the rule cites is the
distinctive Segway®the stand-up, two-wheeled, gyroscopically
balanced, 12.5 maximum-mph transport device that is growing in
popularity among those with and without disabilities. See
>Disabled
Embrace Segway for more information.]
“Wheelchair means a device designed solely for use by an individual
with a mobility impairment for the primary purpose of locomotion in
typical indoor and outdoor pedestrian areas. A wheelchair may be
manually operated or power-driven.
[PNTS Comment: Wheelchairs, long accepted as extensions of the person,
certainly remain acceptable on the scenic and historic trails and in
wilderness areas nationwide.]
Comments are also requested on the proposed regulation, Sec. 35.137,
which has been added to provide additional guidance to public entities
about the circumstances in which power-driven mobility devices must be
accommodated.
§ 35.137 Mobility devices
(a) Use of wheelchairs, scooters, and manually powered mobility aids.
A public entity shall permit individuals with mobility impairments to
use wheelchairs, scooters, walkers, crutches, canes, braces, or other
similar devices designed for use by individuals with mobility
impairments in any areas open to pedestrian use.
(b)Other power-driven mobility devices. A public entity shall make
reasonable modifications in its policies, practices, and procedures to
permit the use of other power-driven mobility devices by individuals
with disabilities, unless the public entity can demonstrate that the use
of the device is not reasonable or that its use will result in a
fundamental alteration of the public entity’s service, program, or
activity.
(c) Development of policies permitting the use of other power-driven
mobility devices. A public entity shall establish policies to permit
the use of other power-driven mobility devices by individuals with
disabilities when it is reasonable to allow an individual with a
disability to participate in a service, program, or activity. Whether a
modification is reasonable to allow the use of a class of power-driven
mobility device by an individual with a disability in specific venues (e.g., parks, courthouses, office
buildings, etc.) shall be determined based on:
(1) The dimensions, weight, and operating speed of the mobility device
in relation to a wheelchair;
(2) The risk of potential harm to others by the operation of the
mobility device;
(3) The risk of harm to the environment or natural or cultural
resources or conflict with Federal land management laws and regulations;
and
(4) The ability of the public entity to stow the mobility device when
not in use, if requested by the user.
(d) Inquiry into use of power-driven mobility device. A public entity
may ask a person using a power-driven mobility device if the mobility
device is needed due to the person’s disability. A public entity
shall not ask a person using a mobility device questions about the nature and extent
of the person’s disability.
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| | | wvyankee2 SSXSRider Member
Number of posts : 10321 Registration date : 2008-01-22 Age : 64 Location : Mohave County, Arizona
| Subject: Re: Action Alert for Public Access Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:01 pm | |
| Part 3- This is the remainder of the letter to the Anti-Access groups.
Here is an analysis of the likely impact of the >proposed definitions
and rule by the Appalachian Trail Conservancy:
Definition of Wheelchair:
“Wheelchair means a device designed solely for use by an individual
with a mobility impairment for the primary purpose of locomotion in
typical indoor and outdoor pedestrian areas. A wheelchair may be
manually operated or power-driven.
The preamble of the DOJ proposal states, “The Department believes
that, while this definition (of a wheelchair per the ADA Title V section
507c, the same as that one proposed above) is appropriate in the limited
context of federal wilderness areas, it goes on to contend that it is
too limited for state and local government facilities.
While it is true that Title II is applicable only to state and local
governments and Title III only to businesses open to the public, courts
later could find the proposed ADA redefinitions should apply much more
broadly.
The Department of Justice may necessarily find, under Section 504 of
the Rehabilitation Act, for example, that the definition should indeed
apply to the federal government. In the end, the definition will likely
become universally applied.
§ 35.137(a) will permit wheelchairs anywhere pedestrians are allowed.
This is unchanged from existing policy. However, § 35.137(b)(c) is new
Language that seeks to also allow "other power-driven mobility devices,"
a much broader category of devices that includes things like Segways.
The language does allow restrictions to be placed on "other power-driven
mobility devices," but development, implementation, and enforcement of any restrictions would be complex and burdensome and placed on top of already
overburdened public resource agency personnel.
It also seems evident that the proposed definition will not exclude
"other power-driven mobility devices" from use in proposed or designated
federal wilderness areas, which will erode the norms for wilderness
use.
From the point of view of a backcountry or wilderness trail hiker,
this new definition of “other power-driven mobility devices could
constitute a broad new license, indeed an “anything that goes, can go
definition.
Introducing new or relaxed standards would open the door to any and
all users and create conflict where none exists now.
If the rule were adopted without greater weight given to the central
values of backcountry recreation, the manager would have to prove that
“use of the device is not reasonable or that its use will
result in a fundamental alteration of the public entity’s service,
program, or activity. Furthermore, the land manager and cooperating
managers, “shall not ask a person using a mobility device questions
about the nature and extent of the person’s disability. While this is an
understandable privacy consideration for persons with disabilities, what
is to prevent anyone who wants to use a “power-driven mobility
device on a trail intended for foot travel from falsely claiming a
disability?
The broad new definition of “other power-driven mobility devices
would affect us in the following ways:
* Jeopardize quiet recreational opportunities;
* Increase user conflict and risk to public safety;
* Cause damage to the trail treadway and increase the burden on
our volunteer work-base.
* Establish precedents and user expectations that have the
potential to dramatically change traditional park and forest
environments, create a confusing new array of expectations among the
public and managers, and more sorely deplete already strained public
resources.
DOJ is also requesting comments on the following questions.
Question 8: “Please comment on the proposed definition of other
power-driven mobility devices. Is the definition overly inclusive of
power-driven mobility devices that may be used by individuals with
disabilities? The Department’s proposed regulatory text on
accommodating wheelchairs and other power-driven mobility devices is discussed in § 35.137 of the section-by-section
analysis.
Question 12: “As explained above, the definition of "wheelchair" is
intended to be tailored so that it includes many styles of traditional
wheeled mobility devices (e.g., wheelchairs and mobility scooters).
Does the definition appear to exclude some types of wheelchairs,
mobility scooters, or other traditional wheeled mobility devices?
Please cite specific examples if possible.
Question 13: “Should the Department expand its definition of
wheelchair to include Segways®?
Question 14: “Are there better ways to define different classes of
mobility devices, such as the weight and size of the device that is used
by the Department of Transportation in the definition of “common
wheelchair ?
Question 15: “Should the Department maintain the non-exhaustive list
of examples as the definitional approach to the term "manually powered
mobility aids"? If so, please indicate whether there are any other
non-powered or manually powered mobility devices that should be
considered for specific inclusion in the definition, a description of those devices, and an explanation of the
reasons they should be included.
Question 16: “Should the Department adopt a definition of the term
"manually powered mobility aids"? If so, please provide suggested
language and an explanation of the reasons such a definition would
better serve the public. The proposed regulation regarding mobility
devices, including wheelchairs, is discussed in the section-by-section analysis for § 35.137.
Question 17: “Are there types of personal mobility devices that must
be accommodated under nearly all circumstances? Conversely, are there
types of mobility devices that almost always will require an assessment
to determine whether they should be accommodated?
Please provide examples of devices and circumstances in your responses.
Question 18: “Should motorized devices that use fuel or
internal-combustion engines (e.g., all-terrain vehicles) be considered
personal mobility devices that are covered by the ADA? Are there
specific circumstances in which accommodating these devices would result
in a fundamental alteration?
Question 19: “Should personal mobility devices used by individuals
with disabilities be categorized by intended purpose or function, by
indoor or outdoor use, or by some other factor? Why or why not?
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