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PostSubject: Re: RZR Dirty intake problem   RZR Dirty intake problem EmptySun Nov 23, 2008 9:57 pm

My RZR is getting another top end rebuild and Polaris is paying for it.Just don't let Chris find out shutup lol!
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PostSubject: Re: RZR Dirty intake problem   RZR Dirty intake problem EmptySun Nov 23, 2008 11:08 pm

Bobby D wrote:
My RZR is getting another top end rebuild and Polaris is paying for it.Just don't let Chris find out shutup lol!

Bobby , please tell me you are kidding...... Shocked

You got to be bullshitting..... affraid

Chris...... 4Sale one Broke RZR...... cheers
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PostSubject: Re: RZR Dirty intake problem   RZR Dirty intake problem EmptyMon Nov 24, 2008 10:05 am

Bobby D wrote:
My RZR is getting another top end rebuild and Polaris is paying for it.Just don't let Chris find out shutup lol!

I can't believe that Bobby. That sux's.


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PostSubject: Re: RZR Dirty intake problem   RZR Dirty intake problem EmptyMon Nov 24, 2008 10:20 am

ChrisC wrote:
Bobby D wrote:
My RZR is getting another top end rebuild and Polaris is paying for it.Just don't let Chris find out shutup lol!

Bobby , please tell me you are kidding...... Shocked

You got to be bullshitting..... affraid

Chris...... 4Sale one Broke RZR...... cheers


No poo It's at the dealer waiting on parts and I just picked it up from the shop in August with a top end rebuild and I noticed it was using oil after the Bell County ride so I thought this should not be happening.I took it back for them to check it out and the mechanic said dust was in the motor again so I said how is that happening since he installed the $500.00 DFR airbox in August at the time of the first rebuild.He is saying he can't tell where it's coming from Shocked Rolling Eyes Mad
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PostSubject: Re: RZR Dirty intake problem   RZR Dirty intake problem EmptyMon Nov 24, 2008 10:56 am

Damn Bobby, that stinks. I hope they get it figured out and fixed. At least they aren't giving you the run around. We can still ride, you know I have to toss out this pic Wink RZR Dirty intake problem L_2665a660ff88493ea25bed2a65b7c7b5
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PostSubject: Re: RZR Dirty intake problem   RZR Dirty intake problem EmptyMon Nov 24, 2008 11:46 am

You just need the stock 09 parts with the new filter alot of those after market air kits dont work either. Ive read of many having no problem since they changed, but you need it all throttle body lip, flex air tube with bellows, new 3 clip air box and the large filter.
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PostSubject: Re: RZR Dirty intake problem   RZR Dirty intake problem EmptyMon Nov 24, 2008 1:42 pm

GunRunner wrote:
You just need the stock 09 parts with the new filter alot of those after market air kits dont work either. Ive read of many having no problem since they changed, but you need it all throttle body lip, flex air tube with bellows, new 3 clip air box and the large filter.

I would not put much faith in the 09's either IMO I don't see where it will fix the problem.I may be wrong but the 09's have not been out long enough to see if the problem is solved.If the DFR air box is not doing the job then the Polaris fix will not either IMO.I don't see how any dust can get past the DFR system and the mechanic can't even tell where it's getting in from.I love my RZR but if it starts using oil again I may just get something else.Ok you POLARIS haters you can bash away I don't care anymore lol!


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PostSubject: Re: RZR Dirty intake problem   RZR Dirty intake problem EmptyMon Nov 24, 2008 2:13 pm

:hijacked: We should put this in another topic, but The new intake has been out awhile, the new filter just came out, You know ive been researching the rzr on the other sites and of all that have the new air tube even with the small filter are saying they have no dust in the intake. You must have a issue with the seals at the filter or the intake. Even the best filter does little good if dust gets by it.
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PostSubject: Re: RZR Dirty intake problem   RZR Dirty intake problem EmptyMon Nov 24, 2008 2:25 pm

Not Hijacked. All you want for Christmas is a dirt free RZR intake system. Thats a fair request. 🎅
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PostSubject: Re: RZR Dirty intake problem   RZR Dirty intake problem EmptyMon Nov 24, 2008 2:44 pm

Forget the dust. Just put some STP in it and let'r rip.... cheers

Hope they fix it this time. I need you to show me some new trails BobbyD. If they have it back by Jan 2 then join us for the ride that Friday and Saturday.
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PostSubject: Re: RZR Dirty intake problem   RZR Dirty intake problem EmptyMon Nov 24, 2008 2:50 pm

GunRunner wrote:
:hijacked: We should put this in another topic, but The new intake has been out awhile, the new filter just came out, You know ive been researching the rzr on the other sites and of all that have the new air tube even with the small filter are saying they have no dust in the intake. You must have a issue with the seals at the filter or the intake. Even the best filter does little good if dust gets by it.

The average person does not ride as much as I do either so I doubt people with the 09's don't have many miles on theirs yet.I put almost 1000 miles on mine in less than 3 months and it sat in the shop 3 weeks of that time and I went and picked it up Nov 7th to ride it for the weekend and had to make an appointment to take it back so it just would not be sitting outside.I hope I'm wrong and the 09's are ok but time will tell.


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PostSubject: Re: RZR Dirty intake problem   RZR Dirty intake problem EmptyMon Nov 24, 2008 2:54 pm

roamerr wrote:
Forget the dust. Just put some STP in it and let'r rip.... cheers

Hope they fix it this time. I need you to show me some new trails BobbyD. If they have it back by Jan 2 then join us for the ride that Friday and Saturday.

I hope it's back next month because I'm suppose to go twice in December Wink
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PostSubject: Re: RZR Dirty intake problem   RZR Dirty intake problem EmptyMon Nov 24, 2008 4:36 pm

Did you see dirt in the intake after you added the DFR or did you just assume the oil use was a result of dirt? It could be whoever did the top end before did a crappy job. I did read some dealers were only replacing the rings, thats just a band aid, it needs to be bored and new pistons and rings installed for it to be a total fix. As to dirt in the intake,I would take a close look at all junctions, it must be letting unfiltered air in because most say the DFR is a good unit. Ive read all the posts on this and it boils down to this, filtration is not rocket science if the system is closed and limited to outside air that can only enter the motor thru the filter and it gets dirt in the motor then the filter is not doing its job. Replace that sub par filter with one with much more filtration that wont let the dirt thru, problem solved. I feel from reading what polaris has said about the new high filtration of the new filter that if it does as it is said to do then the problem is fixed. I will keep a close eye on mine and let you know, as to miles it really doesn't matter long as the filter stops the dirt and you change it when needed.
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PostSubject: Re: RZR Dirty intake problem   RZR Dirty intake problem EmptyMon Nov 24, 2008 5:22 pm

Bobby, I know i play around alot , but i really
am sorry. this just sux... Sad
specialy for it to be tore down around the holidays.
I thought after the new air box that all the RZR motor problem
was solved. now i see that dont fix it eather.
i doubt the 09 filter is any better than your dragon fire.
Seems like polaris would go out of there way to get this fixed.
it has got to be costing them a fortune to fix all these motors
under warrenty.... pale

But now we know gunnys new RZR is going to
blow up too. Gunny dont worry i will pull you back
to the truck.... lol!
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PostSubject: Re: RZR Dirty intake problem   RZR Dirty intake problem EmptyMon Nov 24, 2008 5:36 pm

ChrisC wrote:


But now we know gunnys new RZR is going to
blow up too. Gunny dont worry i will pull you back
to the truck.... lol!

uplaugh :(lmao: :(lmao:

Gunny, It did not even cross my mind that dirt in the motor would be the cause of it using oil again since it has the DFR airbox.I checked the filter often and blew out the dust and I never saw where any dirt was getting thru it.
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PostSubject: Re: RZR Dirty intake problem   RZR Dirty intake problem EmptyMon Nov 24, 2008 5:46 pm

Its on my topic , guess i'll fess up, take a look. Chris the beauty of owning this stuff is tinkering on it, if mine blows polaris will fix it and I'll just buy something faster, bigger and badder long as it dont say rhino on it lol! Im not worried about the dirt deal, ive read all and believe its fixed, bobbys needs all the new stuff and a good rebuild other than a hone and rings. I hope he gets his dealer to pony up all the new stuff.
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PostSubject: Re: RZR Dirty intake problem   RZR Dirty intake problem EmptyMon Nov 24, 2008 5:47 pm

Bobby he already posted a picture of it, in the thread thats
says. ( ok i will fess up )

Chris.... :D
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PostSubject: Re: RZR Dirty intake problem   RZR Dirty intake problem EmptyMon Nov 24, 2008 5:47 pm

Gunny we must have been typeing at the same time.... lol!
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PostSubject: Re: RZR Dirty intake problem   RZR Dirty intake problem EmptyMon Nov 24, 2008 5:54 pm

GunRunner wrote:
Its on my topic , guess i'll fess up, take a look. Chris the beauty of owning this stuff is tinkering on it, if mine blows polaris will fix it and I'll just buy something faster, bigger and badder long as it dont say rhino on it lol! Im not worried about the dirt deal, ive read all and believe its fixed, bobbys needs all the new stuff and a good rebuild other than a hone and rings. I hope he gets his dealer to pony up all the new stuff.


Gunny i dont mind tickering with them god knows i am doing something
all the time. but dam it you are not suppose to have to have
motor work done every 4 months. i dont care how far you ride.

Hell i got a 1976 honda xr75 in the basement , I had since it was
new. that still runs fine. and i know there is no side x side on this forum that has
as many miles on it as that thing does. not even close.

these 4 strokes are suppose to last for years. i dont care who makes it.
most 4 wheelers ware out long before the motors do....... Wink
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PostSubject: Re: RZR Dirty intake problem   RZR Dirty intake problem EmptyMon Nov 24, 2008 7:41 pm

True hard to beat a honda, but its like this the 08 rzr was a first year model it turned out it had a few issues. However it is not every one, plenty of them out there that had no dirt getting in at all. Ive read the forums and plenty of posts from owners with nothing but good to say. I can tell you what happened to bobbys and others, the same filter that worked in the 800 sportsman is what it came with, the airbox on the atv is much smaller and has a very small inlet tube the rzr has a big tube and a big air box and a big inlet so it flowed much more air and much more dirt and it was more than the filter could handle. Solution get a bigger filter. Bobbys issues now IMO arise from it never being fixed right the first time they did motor work. If it ingested that much dirt it ate up the valve guides, did wear to the pistons and cylinders and rings. Most dealers were only honing the cylinder which removes even more metal and added new rings. It needs a new head, pistons, rings and a bore job and it would last forever long as the filtration issue was fixed.
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PostSubject: Re: RZR Dirty intake problem   RZR Dirty intake problem EmptyMon Nov 24, 2008 8:10 pm

Well , i do agree on that. but. if it got that much dirt in it.
i would not trust the bottom end now. if it was me. i would want
a new motor. not one thats been patched up twice.
what he is having done now. should not have needed to be done for at least
5 or 6 more years. 10 grand is to much to put up with this.
i think he deserves a new motor , specialy for his trouble... Wink
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PostSubject: Re: RZR Dirty intake problem   RZR Dirty intake problem EmptyMon Nov 24, 2008 8:23 pm

ChrisC wrote:
Well , i do agree on that. but. if it got that much dirt in it.
i would not trust the bottom end now. if it was me. i would want
a new motor. not one thats been patched up twice.
what he is having done now. should not have needed to be done for at least
5 or 6 more years. 10 grand is to much to put up with this.
i think he deserves a new motor , specialy for his trouble... Wink

I have to agree with Chris on this one. There is no way I would ever trust that engine. Hell I would get it fixed and sell it. Then buy a new one.
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PostSubject: Re: RZR Dirty intake problem   RZR Dirty intake problem EmptyMon Nov 24, 2008 8:31 pm

Ronnie , i agree. I know thats what i would do.
But, i think bobby said the other day he was not working.
and you know if he trades. I doubt thay will give him Hafe
his money. So he will be out alot of cash to upgrade.... pale

its just not right to have to buy the same machine again in
one year, and loose alot of money when its not your fault.... :evil:

what thay should do is buy it back. and let him pay the difference
on a 09. now that would be the right thing to do..... allright
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PostSubject: Re: RZR Dirty intake problem   RZR Dirty intake problem EmptyMon Nov 24, 2008 8:37 pm

ChrisC wrote:

........what thay should do is buy it back. and let him pay the difference
on a 09. now that would be the right thing to do..... allright

You would think!

Any of the manufacturers should stand behind their product. Especially if they sell you junk.
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PostSubject: Re: RZR Dirty intake problem   RZR Dirty intake problem EmptyMon Nov 24, 2008 9:15 pm

Ok, watch the junk comments rhino boyz lol! Ive read hundreds of posts on broken rhinos pot

I do think they should do a total rebuild, if bobby stirs up the dust lol! they just might!
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