newbie needs advice

went today and rode a rzr s and an xp ranger looked....i'm likin the ride the s has and was comfortable couldn't believe the pickup power the s has. just rode the blacktop at the dealers but really liked it so far

Greg_77 wrote:

went today and rode a rzr s and an xp ranger looked....i'm likin the ride the s has and was comfortable couldn't believe the pickup power the s has. just rode the blacktop at the dealers but really liked it so far

The S will not disappoint you......

some of the guys at the dealers was sayin something bout an 850 s with 70hp is this just rumor?

Yes , i think its a rumor for now. The 850 in its present
state will not fit in a RZR , and the whole machine would need to be
redesigned. I dont see that happening any time soon.
it works to well as it is. and there just getting everything ironed
out good. i dont see them changing it this soon.
just my opinion of course......

the 850 is not going in the S its configured wrong and would require a total new frame, its been a rumor since the 850 motor came out last year. It might make it into a sxs someday but it will be a different vehicle. Polaris just got the bugs worked out of the rzr and just retooled the rangers for the 800 motor, so dont look for the 850 in anything new anytime soon.

GunRunner wrote:

Polaris just got the bugs worked out of the rzr and just retooled the rangers for the 800 motor, so dont look for the 850 in anything new anytime soon.

Kind of surprised me that when they retooled the Ranger, they didn't go with the 850.

wvyankee2 wrote:

GunRunner wrote:

Polaris just got the bugs worked out of the rzr and just retooled the rangers for the 800 motor, so dont look for the 850 in anything new anytime soon.

Kind of surprised me that when they retooled the Ranger, they didn't go with the 850.

Its easy to see why if you look at the 850 motor, it is a v twin that sits inline rather than sideways like the 800, to use it it would require a completely different frame setup. Thats why they still sell the 800 sportsman and the 850, they are totally different machines, they could not just stick the 800 in the existing sportsman setup.

GunRunner wrote:

Its easy to see why if you look at the 850 motor, it is a v twin that sits inline rather than sideways like the 800

No Gunny, the 850 is an inline and not a V Twin. It does however sit directly upright instead of on an angle like the 800 does. They did that to narrow the seating area on a Sportsman, and it would create clearance issues in a SidexSide as they are currently designed.

Here is a Pic of the Polaris 850 twin.

wvyankee2 wrote:

GunRunner wrote:

Its easy to see why if you look at the 850 motor, it is a v twin that sits inline rather than sideways like the 800

No Gunny, the 850 is an inline and not a V Twin. It does however sit directly upright instead of on an angle like the 800 does. They did that to narrow the seating area on a Sportsman, and it would create clearance issues in a SidexSide as they are currently designed.

Here is a Pic of the Polaris 850 twin.

I meant just to say twin, the inline design is the issue in putting it in current setups, its like the honda atv motor setup , the motor sits up higher but it is also mounted inline rather than sideways like the 800,

Yep. Put some Bucket seats in the Ranger with a dog house like the Rhino and that baby would be right at home.

Screw the 850, I'm waiting on a 1200cc!

Hell I would take the Yamaha 499cc snowmobile engine the shells out 80hp. Why is that not the answer........ snowmobile engines?

I think that 500 is a 2 stroke.......

Nope four stroke two cylinder. I don't understand why this would not work.

Type / Displacement / cc Four-stroke, 499cc
Cylinders Two
Horsepower Class 80 HP
Cooling Liquid
Bore & Stroke / mm 77 X 53.6
Intake Design 3 valves
Ignition Digital T.C.I. w/throttle position sensor
Fuel Delivery 43mm fuel injection
Exhaust 2 valves, rear exhaust
Clutch / Transmission YVRC, variable ratio
Disc. Brake Type 2-piston hydraulic w/ lightweight ventilated disc

The snowmobile is designed to be run in extreme cold conditions maybe it would run hot in our riding conditions? I don't know just throwing this out there. I would love to see an 80 horse 500cc but that sounds like it would be pushing it to the limits of the engine.

mud-and-guts wrote:

The snowmobile is designed to be run in extreme cold conditions maybe it would run hot in our riding conditions? I don't know just throwing this out there. I would love to see an 80 horse 500cc but that sounds like it would be pushing it to the limits of the engine.

Well, how about this one

Type / Displacement / cc
Cylinders
Horsepower Class
Cooling
Bore & Stroke / mm
Intake Design
Fuel Delivery
Ignition
Exhaust
Clutch / Transmission
Disc. Brake Type

That would be sweet they could tune it down a little to make it super reliable and be the toughest bike out. I would love for Yamaha to change the engine but I don't see it before 2011-2012.

I am looking for them to redesign the Rhino so it will accumulate the larger engine this year and maybe install it next year. Depending on the lawsuits of course.

mud-and-guts wrote:

...... Depending on the lawsuits of course.

Yamaha has been winning!!!!!! I guess America is finally getting tired of sue happy people and lawyers.

Those motors have got to be a Turbo to put out that kind of horsepower.

Snowmobile engines turn more RPM's and their power is up stairs in that RPM range.
Plus, they do not produce the torque that would be necessary to move our HEAVY (in comparison) SxS's significantly.