Number of posts : 737 Registration date : 2011-02-15 Age : 43 Location : Archdale, NC
Subject: Re: rhino vs rzrs Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:16 pm
Heres the bottom line.........they all have their qwirks. They all have their problems. One is not better than the other. POLARIS IS NOT THE GOLDEN CHILD. I have one and it has had its problems. Everyone needs to buy what they want and enjoy what they want. One does not wear better than the other. Polaris has its problems just like all the other brands. I have owned some Polaris stuff and many of my friends have. I have towed more Polaris's off the mountain that I can count......but my friends were VERY hard on them. All of these machines are the same. If anyone has a better built its going to be a yamaha due to the fact its built in Japan and the others have outsourced to Mexico. I have a RZR because of its nitch in how its fun. If someone comes out with something closer to the RZR then I am leaving Polaris and getting it. I would like to try something else to see if someone else is building something better in quality. I just want to try it. This is a hobby and they all break and have to be fixed. You got to pay to play! They are all the same! Polaris is in NO WAY better quailty. BELIEVE ME. Now lets ride!!!!!
Big-R SSXSRider Staff
Number of posts : 16074 Registration date : 2008-02-26 Age : 51 Location : Louisville,Ky
Subject: Re: rhino vs rzrs Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:19 pm
TBONE21 wrote:
Heres the bottom line.........they all have their qwirks. They all have their problems. One is not better than the other. POLARIS IS NOT THE GOLDEN CHILD. I have one and it has had its problems. Everyone needs to buy what they want and enjoy what they want. One does not wear better than the other. Polaris has its problems just like all the other brands. I have owned some Polaris stuff and many of my friends have. I have towed more Polaris's off the mountain that I can count......but my friends were VERY hard on them. All of these machines are the same. If anyone has a better built its going to be a yamaha due to the fact its built in Japan and the others have outsourced to Mexico. I have a RZR because of its nitch in how its fun. If someone comes out with something closer to the RZR then I am leaving Polaris and getting it. I would like to try something else to see if someone else is building something better in quality. I just want to try it. This is a hobby and they all break and have to be fixed. You got to pay to play! They are all the same! Polaris is in NO WAY better quailty. BELIEVE ME. Now lets ride!!!!!
I have to agree with you. Welcome to the site!!!
Smith700 SSXSRider Member
Number of posts : 2713 Registration date : 2009-08-21 Location : Knoxville,Tn
Subject: Re: rhino vs rzrs Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:21 pm
Welcome..... But I have to say, Yamaha's are built and assembled in Newman,Georgia.....the company is based out of Japan.
TBONE21 SSXSRider Member
Number of posts : 737 Registration date : 2011-02-15 Age : 43 Location : Archdale, NC
Subject: Re: rhino vs rzrs Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:22 pm
Thanks Big R!!! Nice to meet ya bud!!!
TBONE21 SSXSRider Member
Number of posts : 737 Registration date : 2011-02-15 Age : 43 Location : Archdale, NC
Subject: Re: rhino vs rzrs Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:23 pm
smith700 wrote:
Welcome..... But I have to say, Yamaha's are built and assembled in Newman,Georgia.....the company is based out of Japan.
I will still take that over Mexico!
Foxfire SSXSRider Member
Number of posts : 6060 Registration date : 2008-04-01 Age : 73 Location : Bristol, Wisconsin
Subject: Re: rhino vs rzrs Tue Feb 15, 2011 9:14 pm
Compa....eto no lagusta los Mexicano's
Doc SSXSRider Member
Number of posts : 70 Registration date : 2011-02-09 Location : Athens Alabama
Subject: Re: rhino vs rzrs Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:30 am
nocerisdave wrote:
There are plenty of hills around here that my mostly stock Rhino wouldnt go up The Rhino would just quit pulling on them. The majority were in places like ravines where you couldnt get a run and go.
I have not become "one" with my Rhino yet, very few miles rode so can you xplain in detail before I find out on a hill? Even in low?
bush SSXSRider Staff
Number of posts : 6141 Registration date : 2008-06-06 Age : 40 Location : Castlewood VA
Subject: Re: rhino vs rzrs Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:53 am
WV Hot Rod Rhino wrote:
bush wrote:
built rhino vs stock rzrs on the trail is where i want to see and hope to find out this sat. my rzr is in need of a set of bushings but im just going to grease it up good and hit the trails. but i think the rhino will not leave me in the dust unless its a drag race. i rode a rhino over 5 years and have had a rzr for 2 years and i just can see a rhino handling the trail at the speed the rzrs can. the rhino was a little better built but i broke way more shit on it than the rzr.just go back on this site about 2 years and you can see all the broke parts. i use to climb some hills on the rhino that was stupid now that i look back and think about it. my sac got a little bigger than it should have got. and any of you guys with the 660s may want to think about what would happen if you break an axle climbing a big steep hill. beleve me its not fun to break one and have to hit the brakes and only have brakes on three wheels.FYI 3 wheel will not hold you on a hill. even if you try to back down slow all it wants to go is turn sideways and thats not good on a steep hill.
you name it on a rhino and i more than likely i broke it on a rhino and i got pics to prove it. between the 2 rzrs that i have had i have broke only the plastic front diff in the 09 and the trans that keep poping out of low on the S and thats even with rolling the 09 over a mountain and totaling it. winched it back on the trail and drove it to the truck. and i still say the fit and finish is a little better on a rhino. the bushings on the rzr are a weak link but the rear knuckle bushings go bad on a rhino along with wheel bearings and break pads are the worst.
dont get me wrong, i bleed yamaha blue but something better has came along and its a polaris. yamaha will be back on top one day. but thats not today. like i said on another site i would rather have to change the bushings after every ride than to go back to trail rideing on a rhino again. and Monica will tell you that she would not go on a trail ride with me on a rhino again. like others have said i dont care what you ride i will ride with ya. and i dont care about being the fastest if i did i would have some go fast mods.
wont argue with someone who dosent know how many brakes is on a rhino....just to let you know its 5 not 3. your arguing something you know nothing about.like i said i do this every day you dont
james, i guess you dont know as much about the rhino as you think. reread my post . any of you guys with the 660s may want to think about what would happen if you break an axle climbing a big steep hill. beleve me its not fun to break one and have to hit the brakes and only have brakes on three wheels.FYI 3 wheel will not hold you on a hill.
they fixed that on the 700 along with lots of other things.
i may not work on them every day but i am on the internet and read about them everyday i know what im talking about before i post.
james, you are a great mechanic and have great ideas.i send people your way all the time for parts and help and will continue to do so. you have one bad ass rhino. all im trying to say is that yamaha needs to step up and build a sport sxs. it will only better the sport.but for now polaris has the best trail machine. it may not be the best built but it is the funnest sxs to ride in the woods.
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bush SSXSRider Staff
Number of posts : 6141 Registration date : 2008-06-06 Age : 40 Location : Castlewood VA
Subject: Re: rhino vs rzrs Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:14 am
SBBDoc wrote:
nocerisdave wrote:
There are plenty of hills around here that my mostly stock Rhino wouldnt go up The Rhino would just quit pulling on them. The majority were in places like ravines where you couldnt get a run and go.
I have not become "one" with my Rhino yet, very few miles rode so can you xplain in detail before I find out on a hill? Even in low?
this is wide open with the rhino. i would hit it around 30mph and only be crawling at the top.
now the rzr on the same hill. got to let off at the top with a rzr if you do not want to jump.
AIRBORNE SSXSRider Member
Number of posts : 6266 Registration date : 2008-05-01 Age : 50 Location : Morgantown, West Virginia
Subject: Re: rhino vs rzrs Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:53 am
Clayboy wrote:
Variety is the spice of life! We have all been down this road, so let's keep this thing real freindly here and enjoy each others opinions without getting ugly. Some of my best buds drive a different machine than I do but I still value them as a friend.
I miss my Rhino, but for trail capability I know my RZR ran circles around my Rhino. Go ahead and open up with both barrels on me........but I have owned both and that is my opinion. Would I buy another Rhino........probably not, unless they gave it more suspension travel, lightened the weight and put in a higher performance engine. Do I scoff at the Rhino just because I have a RZRS now......absolutely not. The Rhino was a good machine, very fun, very dependable, and very versatile. I would probably still have mine if my wife had not gotten pregnant. But since it is sold, I will not be looking to buy another one. Yes, my RZR has gone through some bushings, but my Rhino did too. I have gotten more miles on the first set of brakes on my RZR. I guess you can go back and forth all day, but bottom line for me is who I am riding with. You can be on John Deere Gator and if we are drinkin a coldie and shooting the breeze, I could give a damn what you drive.
Some of my best buddies are on this site. I have yet to see any of us refuse to ride with someone because of the brand of their machine. I can tell you this though. We have had to stop and do more "trail maintenance" on Rhinos than RZRs on all the rides I have been on.
That being said...........when is someone going to line up that XP with a modded Rhino??
Smith700 SSXSRider Member
Number of posts : 2713 Registration date : 2009-08-21 Location : Knoxville,Tn
Subject: Re: rhino vs rzrs Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:59 am
I will say..... the stock Rhino might need a little more power, especially when climbing a hill at 20mph, they seem to run out of power at the top But we tried out a couple mods on a friend's 700...They were 18gr OD weights, Dynatek CDI, exhaust tip,Weller Racing injector, EPI Spring, and 54mm throttle body....and it woke it up 100%....hills were no longer a problem climbing,while keeping full reliability of a stock motor.
nocerisdave SSXSRider Member
Number of posts : 5674 Registration date : 2008-01-22 Age : 59 Location : Laceys Spring AL
Subject: Re: rhino vs rzrs Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:56 pm
SBBDoc wrote:
nocerisdave wrote:
There are plenty of hills around here that my mostly stock Rhino wouldnt go up The Rhino would just quit pulling on them. The majority were in places like ravines where you couldnt get a run and go.
I have not become "one" with my Rhino yet, very few miles rode so can you xplain in detail before I find out on a hill? Even in low?
Bush hit it on the head for me too.
It depends mostly on the degree of the hill and how much of a runway, to get up to speed, you have. I have no idea what degree is too much for a stock or a slightly mod-ed Rhino without looking at the hill. When I sold my Rhino it had 3700 miles on it and I could tell what it could and couldnt climb, even with the clutch and motor mods it had. From my experience with my stock S those hills I couldnt climb with the Rhino I have no problems with them now unless I "spin out". Low on the hills I am referring to, didnt help and actually didnt climb as far as it would in high. Now I used low on hills when I could.
Big-R SSXSRider Staff
Number of posts : 16074 Registration date : 2008-02-26 Age : 51 Location : Louisville,Ky
Subject: Re: rhino vs rzrs Wed Feb 16, 2011 8:39 pm
bush wrote:
WV Hot Rod Rhino wrote:
bush wrote:
built rhino vs stock rzrs on the trail is where i want to see and hope to find out this sat. my rzr is in need of a set of bushings but im just going to grease it up good and hit the trails. but i think the rhino will not leave me in the dust unless its a drag race. i rode a rhino over 5 years and have had a rzr for 2 years and i just can see a rhino handling the trail at the speed the rzrs can. the rhino was a little better built but i broke way more shit on it than the rzr.just go back on this site about 2 years and you can see all the broke parts. i use to climb some hills on the rhino that was stupid now that i look back and think about it. my sac got a little bigger than it should have got. and any of you guys with the 660s may want to think about what would happen if you break an axle climbing a big steep hill. beleve me its not fun to break one and have to hit the brakes and only have brakes on three wheels.FYI 3 wheel will not hold you on a hill. even if you try to back down slow all it wants to go is turn sideways and thats not good on a steep hill.
you name it on a rhino and i more than likely i broke it on a rhino and i got pics to prove it. between the 2 rzrs that i have had i have broke only the plastic front diff in the 09 and the trans that keep poping out of low on the S and thats even with rolling the 09 over a mountain and totaling it. winched it back on the trail and drove it to the truck. and i still say the fit and finish is a little better on a rhino. the bushings on the rzr are a weak link but the rear knuckle bushings go bad on a rhino along with wheel bearings and break pads are the worst.
dont get me wrong, i bleed yamaha blue but something better has came along and its a polaris. yamaha will be back on top one day. but thats not today. like i said on another site i would rather have to change the bushings after every ride than to go back to trail rideing on a rhino again. and Monica will tell you that she would not go on a trail ride with me on a rhino again. like others have said i dont care what you ride i will ride with ya. and i dont care about being the fastest if i did i would have some go fast mods.
wont argue with someone who dosent know how many brakes is on a rhino....just to let you know its 5 not 3. your arguing something you know nothing about.like i said i do this every day you dont
james, i guess you dont know as much about the rhino as you think. reread my post . any of you guys with the 660s may want to think about what would happen if you break an axle climbing a big steep hill. beleve me its not fun to break one and have to hit the brakes and only have brakes on three wheels.FYI 3 wheel will not hold you on a hill.
they fixed that on the 700 along with lots of other things.
i may not work on them every day but i am on the internet and read about them everyday i know what im talking about before i post.
james, you are a great mechanic and have great ideas.i send people your way all the time for parts and help and will continue to do so. you have one bad ass rhino. all im trying to say is that yamaha needs to step up and build a sport sxs. it will only better the sport.but for now polaris has the best trail machine. it may not be the best built but it is the funnest sxs to ride in the woods.
How long did you have the Rhino? I wonder how much stuff you will replace on the RZR if you have it long?
bush SSXSRider Staff
Number of posts : 6141 Registration date : 2008-06-06 Age : 40 Location : Castlewood VA
Subject: Re: rhino vs rzrs Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:53 pm
I got the rhino in sept 05. The first 2 years is when most things broke on it.
ridepate SSXSRider Staff
Number of posts : 6409 Registration date : 2009-04-23 Age : 64 Location : 1st join date- 1/22/2008- North Ga.
Subject: Re: rhino vs rzrs Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:54 pm
I agree with Airborne....................I still miss my Rhino... It never broke, and I beat on it pretty good............ If Yamaha ever steps back-up to the plate, I'll bail on this ChinoPoo in an instant.....................
Rhino Rob SSXSRider Member
Number of posts : 2577 Registration date : 2009-01-25 Age : 63 Location : the home of the volunteers and port st joe tiger sharks
Subject: Re: rhino vs rzrs Thu Feb 17, 2011 5:33 am
"I would probably still have mine if my wife had not gotten pregnant." "airborne"
Chicks dig rhinoes They seem to have a higher POF.
MuddyBuddy SSXSRider Member
Number of posts : 2085 Registration date : 2010-01-03 Age : 37 Location : Nashville, TN
Subject: Re: rhino vs rzrs Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:15 am
Haha my new one digs mine!!! Oddly enough we were talking and of course chicks love it with you tell them your in Southern SXS Riders as well, and funny her dad is one of the old school guys who doesn't get on anymore. Also funny thing pate, before I joined I believe I followed you around for half a day at brimstone one time when you had the rhino!!
AIRBORNE SSXSRider Member
Number of posts : 6266 Registration date : 2008-05-01 Age : 50 Location : Morgantown, West Virginia
Subject: Re: rhino vs rzrs Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:49 am
ridepate wrote:
I agree with Airborne....................I still miss my Rhino... It never broke, and I beat on it pretty good............ If Yamaha ever steps back-up to the plate, I'll bail on this ChinoPoo in an instant.....................
I remember driving the blue beast at Windrock. I was impressed!! I think Tim's silver one was the fastest Rhino I have been in, and it was plenty powerful.
Craig_C
Number of posts : 737 Registration date : 2010-06-21 Age : 41 Location : Corydon, IN
Subject: Re: rhino vs rzrs Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:54 pm
If I had money I would have another 660 Rhino. I would however, do all the things to it I wanted to do to mine when I had it.
Bed Delete Fuel cell rear mount radiator (they clog with mud too easy) Lower the seat mounts mid travel Snowmobile clutch List goes on and on.
The Rhino is not a bad machine, its just not as capable as the Rzr.
As far as chicks digging Rhinos....Id have to disagree! After I got my Rzr, when someones other brand machine broke their ladies usually rode with me.....and I will have to take some blame for them trading thier machines off for a Rzr after their ladies felt how comfortable the Rzr ride is!
MuddyBuddy SSXSRider Member
Number of posts : 2085 Registration date : 2010-01-03 Age : 37 Location : Nashville, TN
Subject: Re: rhino vs rzrs Thu Feb 17, 2011 6:10 pm
Some of them like it rough!! hahaha
Big-R SSXSRider Staff
Number of posts : 16074 Registration date : 2008-02-26 Age : 51 Location : Louisville,Ky
Subject: Re: rhino vs rzrs Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:53 pm
MuddyBuddy wrote:
Some of them like it rough!! hahaha
Smith700 SSXSRider Member
Number of posts : 2713 Registration date : 2009-08-21 Location : Knoxville,Tn
Subject: Re: rhino vs rzrs Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:07 pm
You can't blame the machine for getting clogged with mud.... A rear mount radiator? How do you expect to have any air flowing? It's not pulling any air through it...... Just slow down before you hit a mud puddle at 20mph....I have nearly 4500 miles on mine, and never has it overheated on me.
Fuel cell? It's not a race machine??? Oh thats right, on a RZR, you would need one for trail riding, since you can punch a hole in the gastank with a stick....
The main reason they have no power, is that the stock Rhino piston is 8.8-1 compression, and only measure around 110 lbs of compression,where my Rhino has close to 200 lbs of compression....and the 660 Rhino's head had a huge weld in the middle of it..... All you need is a to raise the compression, polish the head, to a little clutch work, and it has plenty of power.... Like I have said, I doubled the HP on mine from 22.8 to 48.2HP at the rear wheels,and that was before I put the Weller Injector and the 54mm throttle body to mine, I need to have it put on the Dyno again now with the latest mods.....you cannot bog mine on a hill.
BTW....does anyone know what WV Rider did to his Rhino motor?? Was it a 660 or 700?
Big-R SSXSRider Staff
Number of posts : 16074 Registration date : 2008-02-26 Age : 51 Location : Louisville,Ky
Subject: Re: rhino vs rzrs Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:18 pm
Smith700 wrote:
BTW....does anyone know what WV Rider did to his Rhino motor?? Was it a 660 or 700?
700.
Craig_C
Number of posts : 737 Registration date : 2010-06-21 Age : 41 Location : Corydon, IN
Subject: Re: rhino vs rzrs Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:28 pm
Smith700 wrote:
You can't blame the machine for getting clogged with mud.... A rear mount radiator? How do you expect to have any air flowing? It's not pulling any air through it...... Just slow down before you hit a mud puddle at 20mph....I have nearly 4500 miles on mine, and never has it overheated on me.
Fuel cell? It's not a race machine??? Oh thats right, on a RZR, you would need one for trail riding, since you can punch a hole in the gastank with a stick....
The main reason they have no power, is that the stock Rhino piston is 8.8-1 compression, and only measure around 110 lbs of compression,where my Rhino has close to 200 lbs of compression....and the 660 Rhino's head had a huge weld in the middle of it..... All you need is a to raise the compression, polish the head, to a little clutch work, and it has plenty of power.... Like I have said, I doubled the HP on mine from 22.8 to 48.2HP at the rear wheels,and that was before I put the Weller Injector and the 54mm throttle body to mine, I need to have it put on the Dyno again now with the latest mods.....you cannot bog mine on a hill.
BTW....does anyone know what WV Rider did to his Rhino motor?? Was it a 660 or 700?
Wow, I try to give the Rhino props and you shoot it down.
Most all race vehicles use a rear mount radiator, shrouds and a fan will cool it. And slow down? I cant even begin to count how many clogged Rhino radiators my group has had....and we are NOT mud riders. And what fun is slowing down?
A fuel cell is to allow cutting the seat mounts and lowering the seat height. Ask why someone would do something before you make a dumb remark.
Im a fleet manager for a transportation company, that is contracted by UPS to transport EVERY one of the few thousand employees to thier work stations. Im an ASE Master Tech (have been since before I could legally drink) Im DiamlerChrysler Powertrain specialist, Chrysler Gold Cert. bla bla bla. I know what it takes to make power. I know how an engine works. I was giving the Rhino some props, and you, a Rhino supporter made the Rhino look worse. Im done with this topic, lol, Ive had my share of internet battles. Lol, I just like to ride. Ive ridden dirt bikes, utility quads, sport quads, I raced GNCC, and went to a Rhino. I loved my Rhino. No complaints. I would never say the build quality was any greater than what Polaris builds now. 5 years ago...yeah, Popo was behind the times. Ive had my Rzr down to nothing replacing the frame (I know, Polaris's poor quailty was to blame....not the 100 year old oak tree). I dont see anything that lacks quality that the Yamaha excelled in. For every downfall I can find on the Polaris, I can find another on the Rhino. Same goes for the Cat and Teryx. This whole "debate" started when the original poster claimed how "crappy" the Rzr is...just because he has spent some major dough to be able to outrun one by a sxs length. Awsome work he did. I wont take anything from him, or you, or anyone. My Dodge diesel will outrun any stock powerstroke or duramax....but its not stock by any means! But because of that I would never say a Ford or Chevy diesel is poor quality.
roadiestar
Number of posts : 842 Registration date : 2008-01-25 Age : 104 Location : Obama land USSR
Subject: Re: rhino vs rzrs Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:37 pm
But because of that I would never say a Ford or Chevy diesel is poor quality.
I will say that a Ford 6 liter diesel is a pile of shit. Because we had 2 of them.