Hey Georgia 4x4

I just bought a BRP 4 point harness bar from a fella... was it you????

rcmassengill@earthlink.net

Just curious if it was. if so - thanks - worked out great!

Hope it wasn't this one...............................


http://georgia4x4.madmooseforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=137&sid=f0ebf9092e275ccdb7d29e14867f4b1c

Yes it was me..as long as you are trail ridin it will be alright..".Ride Plate" wouldn't understand, he is still messing around in the mud with the stock belts...

Surrrrrrre it will. be afraid,be very afraid..........l dont ride in the mud- poser.........

In case he goes back to his failing forum and erases the post here's what he says about the harness-bar



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"I had a Black Rhino 4 point seat belt bar. They are a piece of junk.., When I did my big endo- forward flip the flat bracket mounted to the center roll cage point bent...Yea it bent under the weight of throwing me out the windshield. I straightened it but it did it again at Rocky Creek two weeks ago on a left side Flop....I pulled that junk out and bentup and welded in a permenet four point belt bar that does not intefer with the box opening..."

wow, just wow.

damn man - I dont even know what to say .... glad to know it worked for you :evil:

explain the crash please. the bar didnt look bent at all - did you re-powder coat again after you bent it back?

have to admit - wish I had known all this before I bought it!!

i would be pissed to :evil:

yikes...


surely, georgia didn't bend the crap out of it... bend it back straight again, repaint then sale as new... that's wrong.

I will say he didnt sell it as new....but "almost"

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/rvs/538997054.html
Almost New (1 month old) Black Rhino Four point seat belt, cross bar. Four point belts and added strength ..Bolts in stock location.
www.georgia4x4.org


Fella - I am not bashing you here, was actually just trying to introduce myself since I saw your name.... the piece bolted on fine - and like I said - looked fine - cant even tell it was bent....but if it was bent as bad as you say, THEN bent back, structural integrity has been compromised.

you know you would be pissed.

I realize the price was equal to a used piece...but when someone says almost new - NO ONE would expect a story like that.

I guess its buyer beware, but compensation (in any form) would be appreciated.

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rcmass wrote:

I will say he didnt sell it as new....but "almost"

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/rvs/538997054.html
Almost New (1 month old) Black Rhino Four point seat belt, cross bar. Four point belts and added strength ..Bolts in stock location.
www.georgia4x4.org


Fella - I am not bashing you here, was actually just trying to introduce myself since I saw your name.... the piece bolted on fine - and like I said - looked fine - cant even tell it was bent....but if it was bent as bad as you say, THEN bent back, structural integrity has been compromised.

you know you would be pissed.

I realize the price was equal to a used piece...but when someone says almost new - NO ONE would expect a story like that.

I guess its buyer beware, but compensation (in any form) would be appreciated.

appreciated?? I think he OWE'S you that! That is just plain WRONG! :evil:

i would say refun/or new replacement for knowingly selling you faulty "safety" equip.

hate to sound petty - but I am hoping for the same.

just feel took - and on a safety item. comvenience mod - whatever, but safety???

rcmass wrote:

hate to sound petty - but I am hoping for the same.

just feel took - and on a safety item. comvenience mod - whatever, but safety???

sound petty?? HOPING????? Hell EXPECT the same!

Lets see the outcome esp since their business and rep is on the line in a thread on a site their a part of

Sorry you bought it...It was not even bent enough for most people to Notice .Only the area in the very center where the weaker "Black Rhino" engraving was. No painting or anything to dress it up and I made it public knowledge. I talked with Black Rhino about it as well because I seperated a shoulder and blammed it on this bar, even though that wasnt it..They told me that it was not designed for racing applications. Weve already beefed up another one for somebody else.The Bar was only one month old I have the receipts if you like that but sorry this aint Wal-Mart.

it did not say it was bent in your add on craigslist..

It aint bent now and probably will never bend again..If you can see the area that it bent in you will see its a Flaw from Black Rhino...It's NOT BENT NOW..Unless you do a huge endo it will not bend again.. They all are week, everyone of them.. Who would advertise a Product to sell that has a Factory flaw, thats up to the consumer to research. We tried em exploited there weeknesses took em off and sold em....Hell send it to me I'll beef it up like we had to do Rodney's.

im just say..im sure the guy feels TOOK ..he's new to the rhino world and i just dont think it was right I think it would be bad for buisness

It was not my intention to "Take" anybody.. Its a bolt in product that has a flaw from the Factory.. . I just didnt trust it with my son doing big doubles so I welded a bar in...

Robby- if your worried about it send it to me, I'll put the same mod on it I did Rodneys'. It looks factory and really beefs up that week area.
Vince

you've made your point here and in an email....

why not just post apic of the beef and I will do it myself. that would eb appreciated.

as for this transaction - please learn from YOUR mistake. Be truthful.

I have learned from my mistake.

Best of luck in the future.

hate to do it - but have to....

Just finished installing the bar – and with the center being bent, it didnt line up at all. I had to rebend the center portion to make it fit - much less, fit well.

I am extremely disappointed, and will be worried every time I ride.

Just not the way I do business, and never hope to experience this again.

Send it back.......We'll fix it...

thanks but no thanks....

after getting a piece that was bent in the first - no offense - but dont really trust anyone right now to fix it - I will do it myself. Besides - that will be cheaper than shipping it there to have you do it.

If you have a pic of what you did to the other piece - that would be very helpful - just to give me ideas.

other than that - this transaction is over and I have learned a huge lesson.

Georgia4x4 wrote:

Send it back.......We'll fix it...

Sounds like you are fixing your own business! Is this the way you treat people? Oh it's not safe for my kid, so I will sell it to someone that don't know much about the sport. You sir are not the kind of people I or anyone on this board need! If you have any good in you, send the mans money back!
All I have seen from you is smart ass talk. You showed you think you are so much better than everybody here with your commit, we test all week & you play on the weekends, so your rhinos can't run that fast! Remember you started all of this! Now lets see if you can finish it !

Well said Z.

Yeah..............You know I was gonna"let this go" after some lost sleep last night over all the banter on this thread and another..........and after this, I promise, I will but............
It's just the way some people ,whats the word, project?? themselves, as all-knowing,"I'm the Man, What I say is the gospel ,because I raced" "You need to do this" bs, sorry, that crap flies all-over me. And to sell of all things ,a safety-item to someone thats been thrashed as "almost new" pure BS. Sorry to expose the dude , but hey, I consider everyone here a friend, and I watch out for my friends.
Jimbo