Can-Am rumor mill

Thought I would start one. I found this but can't confirm if true.



Chaz Rice, Media Relations, Can Am.

In the next few years, you are going to be extremely excited about the product lineup. This is only the tip of the iceberg. José Boisjoli (BRP's President and CEO) confirmed that we will be delivering a new SXS in 2010. That's something that we are extremely excited about. We've tested our first prototype and I can tell you, it is a Can Am!

The only problem is a Can Am SXS will be $15,000 or more by then I would guess

Yeah, I agree. It will cost some big bucks.

It will have a great motor and the rest will be sub standard, the frames break in half. I have a friend with 2 renegades and a outlander 800, frames broke on all three and been so many others a class action lawsuit is brewing. Bad thing is BRP will not stand behind their product and have lousy customer service.

To hear the Can-Am guys on NYROC tell it, Canned Ham has the best warranty and all. I can tell you two stories that pertain to Can-am.

1) Here in Afghanistan the Canadian Army on my FOB had 12 Can-Am 650 and 800s. I talked to the guy (a Canadian) and he said at any given time at least half were in the shop. Kinda amazing considering the things were brand new and were only getting driven at 10mph max around the FOB.

2) My first trip to Windrock, there was a group with all these nice shiny Canned Ham atvs on the trailer. They had driven all the way from Minnesota. I asked why they were on the trailer. Turns out the 650 Outlander had a bad stator. They had gone to a Can-Am dealer about 75 miles away to be told the part was on back order and would be for several months. The dealer refused to take one off a new machine and get him back on the trail. SOOOOOOO, when those CANT AM guys start talking shit about the King Quad being the "Queen Quad" I always like to reflect on that incident. Maybe the Rhino and King Quad are not the fastest machines, but I guarantee you that I won't have near the headaches with maintenance or customer service. That is my opinion.

I will say.........the Can-Am is one fast mo-fo.

Bobby D wrote:

The only problem is a Can Am SXS will be $15,000 or more by then I would guess

My only experience with Can-Am was on an 800 Outlander at Windrock. I got to ride it for about 2 hours and I will tell you this, they should have manditory classes before you are turned loose with something with that much power and throttle response. If they put out a SXS that responds like that we will all have one in the garage, and 15k would be a sweet deal!

That new 09 800 Rotak motor has 67 horsepower. Same as the 1000 Arctic Cat. That is an increase of over 6 HP from the 08 model. Definately more power than 95% of ATV owners need. But now in a SidexSide...........?

If I were going to get up into close to 15k or just below, I do believe I would go with the RZR S. That is my two cents.

Just remember though, the difference in horsepower from 55 in the RZR-S to 67 in a Can-Am, is more than between a 700 Rhino at 46 and a RZR-S at 55. I would say one ride in that 67 horsepower SXS and you would want it.

HP means nothing to me in these. as i dont care about going over 50 MPH.
What i would like is better Gearing. Like a 3 speed instead of 2. so you could
have High for fast running. and a medium for normal trail rideing.
and a granny low. when you need to Git er Done......

Chris....

ChrisC wrote:

HP means nothing to me in these. as i dont care about going over 50 MPH.
What i would like is better Gearing. Like a 3 speed instead of 2. so you could
have High for fast running. and a medium for normal trail rideing.
and a granny low. when you need to Git er Done......

Chris....

I respectfully disagree with you on this one. I want the extra HP just in case! HP is nothing without torque and having extra is a good thing. I want a strong drivetrain that can handle the extra HP. If Yamaha or whoever comes out with a big power motor, I will have one. I dont care about going 60 mph either but 0-40 quickly is important to me!

HP is just speed.
Gearing is power.. we need more power than speed...
Sure everyone wants a bigger motor. but it comes with its set backs
as well. more breakage , less reliable. harder on parts. more heat.
you always haft to give something to get something.
these are woods toys. i will take reliability over speed anyday.

Chris...

More power= more torque = more low end

GunRunner wrote:

More power= more torque = more low end

Very well said.

GunRunner wrote:

More power= more torque = more low end

Ahhhh , Not always true.....
Most high horse motors haft to turn more RPMs to make the real
power. thats where reliability comes in. Tractor trailers.
make 500 horse power. and 8 and 900 foot pounds or torqe.
but without 13 gears thay would be a real turd.
For lowend power you still need gearing. i dont care if its a simi
or a lawn mower it dont matter.

Boils down to what i said in the beginning. want to just go
fast. get and RZR. want a tried and true woods machine.
you get a Rhino......

Now.... if someone comes out with a properly geared SxS with
a big motor that is reliable. Now you got something. and rest asure
it most likely wont happen til Yamaha does it......

Chris.....

ChrisC wrote:

GunRunner wrote:

More power= more torque = more low end

Ahhhh , Not always true.....
Most high horse motors haft to turn more RPMs to make the real
power. thats where reliability comes in. Tractor trailers.
make 500 horse power. and 8 and 900 foot pounds or torqe.
but without 13 gears thay would be a real turd.
For lowend power you still need gearing. i dont care if its a simi
or a lawn mower it dont matter.

Boils down to what i said in the beginning. want to just go
fast. get and RZR. want a tried and true woods machine.
you get a Rhino......

Now.... if someone comes out with a properly geared SxS with
a big motor that is reliable. Now you got something. and rest asure
it most likely wont happen til Yamaha does it......

Chris.....

Chris,

My local Kawi-Suzuki dealer is now carrying these things. This thing makes your so-called "larger axles" on your 700 look like toothpicks.I've always been a mainstream guy, but this thing is truly impressive as far as being robust. When I say robust, I mean robust. My probelm with it is it's ugly. I've watched a lot of vids of this thing and it is truly impressive. The only problem besides it's ugly, is the weight, it's heavy and the shocks dont' look to be valved correctly. But all that aside, it is part Chino, but a well thought out product, IMO.



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Pate , i agree. this could be bad ass. but its chino.....
Reliability will be Shit....
I dont know why Yamaha wont build something like this with these specs.
there would be nothing to compair to it Bar none. but there is 2 problems.
if yamaha built this of there quality. it would be over $20,000.
so that would not fly. and 2 i just read the other day somewhere.
Yamaha sales more Rhino's in one year. than all other sidexsides combined.
So why would thay want to screw with the cash flow.

Here is what i think. some folks just want to go fast , and have jumped
ship in the last year . Yamaha will see this in sales. So i think in 2010
or 2011 , there going to build something that nothing will compair
too. Thay will stay the king. you just watch and see....
I personaly would like to see a twin. but not destroy the rhino
concept. cause i still think it is the best woods machine made.
and most reliable. if i did not believe that. I would not have bought it.

And pate i agree it is ugly as home made crap.
looks like a dune buggy kit car....

Chris.....

The problem is...........65 inches wide. :evil:

wvyankee2 wrote:

The problem is...........65 inches wide. :evil:

Ya i missed that.....
Your right marty that to wide.

Well ive read tests on the joyner, and it is not geared low enough for the woods, as to wide, my prowler was 62" and a rzr-s is 60, they will go most anywhere we ride.

ChrisC wrote:

Pate , i agree. this could be bad ass. but its chino.....
Reliability will be Shit....
I dont know why Yamaha wont build something like this with these specs.
there would be nothing to compair to it Bar none. but there is 2 problems.
if yamaha built this of there quality. it would be over $20,000.
so that would not fly. and 2 i just read the other day somewhere.
Yamaha sales more Rhino's in one year. than all other sidexsides combined.
So why would thay want to screw with the cash flow.

Here is what i think. some folks just want to go fast , and have jumped
ship in the last year . Yamaha will see this in sales. So i think in 2010
or 2011 , there going to build something that nothing will compair
too. Thay will stay the king. you just watch and see....
I personaly would like to see a twin. but not destroy the rhino
concept. cause i still think it is the best woods machine made.
and most reliable. if i did not believe that. I would not have bought it.

And pate i agree it is ugly as home made crap.
looks like a dune buggy kit car....

Chris.....

Chris, I agree , I think and hope Yamaha will step it up for 2010. I've got a sneaky feeling they will....If they do ,I'll be the first in line.......

Rumor mill say's we got something to look forward to in 2009 from Yami!. Old Blue is in danger of being traded.

Clayboy wrote:

Rumor mill say's we got something to look forward to in 2009 from Yami!. Old Blue is in danger of being traded.

Clay , I think you mean 2010. The 09's are already out.
and the 08 and 09 is the same. machine....

Remember about to much Beer. i am not there to drive
you around......

i am looking forward to see what comes out in the next year. because if everything goes good for me i plan on buying another sxs next summer or fall.