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PostSubject: Re: Rhino dead   Rhino dead - Page 2 EmptyTue Jan 11, 2011 9:56 pm

S wrote:
Also try turning the motor by hand.

hide Yea that too
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PostSubject: Re: Rhino dead   Rhino dead - Page 2 EmptyTue Jan 11, 2011 9:58 pm

MuddyBuddy wrote:
Its cold and getting late i guess ill start to disassemble the starter tomorrow. Yeah it stopped me dead in my tracks i went from full throttle to dead in the water no sputter no wind down just dead. Bypassed the solenoid and got nothin. All my connectors are together. Im stumped!

Nothing to do with the starter if it died while running......If the stators putting out voltage, it will run even with a dead battery. Did you turn it off and then no start???
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PostSubject: Re: Rhino dead   Rhino dead - Page 2 EmptyTue Jan 11, 2011 10:34 pm

nope as soon as it died i tried to restart it just made the click then nothin dash and everything still on never lost power. The weird thing is also after working on it for like 2 hours it did turn once then that was it. Now its not even clicking. If my motors seized god helps us. Im goin rotax huntin.
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PostSubject: Re: Rhino dead   Rhino dead - Page 2 EmptyTue Jan 11, 2011 10:40 pm

....bore 660 to 720,piston,cam,head work,valves,bore your throttle body,and hot rods stroker crank....your displacement will be around 780. i think rotax is a little much $$ for woods riding...
MB, I would say it's with your starter.
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PostSubject: Re: Rhino dead   Rhino dead - Page 2 EmptyTue Jan 11, 2011 10:56 pm

Lets hope so!
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PostSubject: Re: Rhino dead   Rhino dead - Page 2 EmptyTue Jan 11, 2011 11:19 pm

Big-R wrote:
Something came loose. Not sure what but I would start checking all plugs.

AIRBORNE wrote:
Mine died like that once and the plug wire had popped off.


The plug connector back in the boot has been known to break off of the plug wire. Give it a good look.
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PostSubject: Re: Rhino dead   Rhino dead - Page 2 EmptyTue Jan 11, 2011 11:25 pm

I will but once again wouldn't the starter be cranking and it just not firing?
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PostSubject: Re: Rhino dead   Rhino dead - Page 2 EmptyTue Jan 11, 2011 11:25 pm

Also, try unplugging your rectifier and see if it starts.
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PostSubject: Re: Rhino dead   Rhino dead - Page 2 EmptyWed Jan 12, 2011 1:50 am

MuddyBuddy wrote:
I will but once again wouldn't the starter be cranking and it just not firing?

That is correct !
Even if you had a bad cdi,stator ,coil,plug or wire,neutral safety switch,selonoid,fuse,brake saftey switch or anything else when you jumped the solenoid over( ***assuming*** you had good connections ((ground and battery)) and the correct voltage) you bypassed them,it would crank (motor would turn over) but would not start if something was bad.... either the starter or engine is locked up
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PostSubject: Re: Rhino dead   Rhino dead - Page 2 EmptyWed Jan 12, 2011 5:59 am

i would bet its not your motor locked up. you have a wire in two or a disconnected wire. trace it from your spark plug back. have you removed the plug and left it hooked up to see if its sparking ?
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PostSubject: Re: Rhino dead   Rhino dead - Page 2 EmptyWed Jan 12, 2011 9:52 pm

Never tried it but I heard the Rhino can be pulled off.....just gotta reach 7 MPH. Not that it applies here but maybe used as part of the process of elimination.
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PostSubject: Re: Rhino dead   Rhino dead - Page 2 EmptyWed Jan 12, 2011 9:58 pm

2fast4u wrote:

Even if you had a bad cdi,stator ,coil,plug or wire,neutral safety switch,selonoid,fuse,brake saftey switch or anything else when you jumped the solenoid over( ***assuming*** you had good connections ((ground and battery)) and the correct voltage) you bypassed them,it would crank (motor would turn over) but would not start if something was bad.... either the starter or engine is locked up


I have read several times that if your stator is bad, the Rhino will not crank. If you disconnect the rectifier and then it cranks, you know you have a bad stator. Not at all an expert on this, just passing info along.
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PostSubject: Re: Rhino dead   Rhino dead - Page 2 EmptyWed Jan 12, 2011 10:45 pm

wvyankee2 wrote:
2fast4u wrote:

Even if you had a bad cdi,stator ,coil,plug or wire,neutral safety switch,selonoid,fuse,brake saftey switch or anything else when you jumped the solenoid over( ***assuming*** you had good connections ((ground and battery)) and the correct voltage) you bypassed them,it would crank (motor would turn over) but would not start if something was bad.... either the starter or engine is locked up


I have read several times that if your stator is bad, the Rhino will not crank. If you disconnect the rectifier and then it cranks, you know you have a bad stator. Not at all an expert on this, just passing info along.

Thats why I had him "jump " the seloniod.... They are several things that will keep them from cranking not an expert either but I do machanic work on the side...... and I stayed at a Holiday Inn roflmao
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PostSubject: Re: Rhino dead   Rhino dead - Page 2 EmptyWed Jan 12, 2011 10:52 pm

Didn't get time to get to it today ended up working late but i do get tomorrow off so it will be tear down day. I might be semi retarded and the holiday Inn was full so i got stuck with the super 8 last night but where is the rectifier?
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PostSubject: Re: Rhino dead   Rhino dead - Page 2 EmptyWed Jan 12, 2011 10:58 pm

Its internal on the side of the motor that has the fan on it...
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PostSubject: Re: Rhino dead   Rhino dead - Page 2 EmptyThu Jan 13, 2011 1:56 pm

did you mean stator? I thought that was the stator down there and the rectifier was under the hood? Either way I unplugged the rectifier under the hood and still same result im taking the starter off now.
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PostSubject: Re: Rhino dead   Rhino dead - Page 2 EmptyThu Jan 13, 2011 4:44 pm

Got the starter off and it spins freely but when i put 15 amps of power to it nothing happens which means this things dead correct?
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PostSubject: Re: Rhino dead   Rhino dead - Page 2 EmptyThu Jan 13, 2011 6:44 pm

MuddyBuddy wrote:
Got the starter off and it spins freely but when i put 15 amps of power to it nothing happens which means this things dead correct?

that should have done it.... easy way is to hook a pair of jumper cables up and test it you have to make sure its grounded with the cables good ( and hold on to it good lol! ) then touch the hot (12volts +) to the terminal it should spin out if it doesnt its bad
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PostSubject: Re: Rhino dead   Rhino dead - Page 2 EmptyThu Jan 13, 2011 6:52 pm

You can also take to a local parts store and they will strap it on their test machine and put power to it for you,for confirmation.... My local Advance Auto does it for me...
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PostSubject: Re: Rhino dead   Rhino dead - Page 2 EmptyThu Jan 13, 2011 11:13 pm

roger that Ive got a new one on the way should be here monday. Hopefully this is it. Im still betting it is the starter and not the motor seized, I want to build my motor eventually but not less than a week before one of the biggest rides of my life coming up.
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PostSubject: Re: Rhino dead   Rhino dead - Page 2 EmptyFri Jan 14, 2011 12:06 am

MuddyBuddy wrote:
roger that Ive got a new one on the way should be here monday. Hopefully this is it. Im still betting it is the starter and not the motor seized, I want to build my motor eventually but not less than a week before one of the biggest rides of my life coming up.

Yeah, I hope you don't miss the ride.
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PostSubject: Re: Rhino dead   Rhino dead - Page 2 EmptyFri Jan 14, 2011 2:41 am

Come hell or high water ronnie I will be there! If i have to ride my old honda rancher 400 I will be there! But kill me or not the rhino will be there regardless of issues! Just what upgrades I make of what is broken before i get there rebel
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PostSubject: Re: Rhino dead   Rhino dead - Page 2 EmptyFri Jan 14, 2011 5:56 am

MuddyBuddy wrote:
Come hell or high water ronnie I will be there! If i have to ride my old honda rancher 400 I will be there! But kill me or not the rhino will be there regardless of issues! Just what upgrades I make of what is broken before i get there rebel

ronnie will make you ride beyotch before an ATV will ride with him...... trust me, i know ! Rhino dead - Page 2 Lol
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PostSubject: Re: Rhino dead   Rhino dead - Page 2 EmptyFri Jan 14, 2011 7:07 am

Rhino Rob wrote:
MuddyBuddy wrote:
Come hell or high water ronnie I will be there! If i have to ride my old honda rancher 400 I will be there! But kill me or not the rhino will be there regardless of issues! Just what upgrades I make of what is broken before i get there rebel

ronnie will make you ride beyotch before an ATV will ride with him...... trust me, i know ! Rhino dead - Page 2 Lol

Hey, I like to have a good beyotch with me!!! lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Rhino dead   Rhino dead - Page 2 EmptyFri Jan 14, 2011 4:46 pm

Haha hell if I did that it would just make me mad and the rhino would be for sale when i got back to get a rzr. Had a thought today at work, if i can freely spin the starter then how come when it died it stopped me dead in my tracks?
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