Local Ford Dealer has Pissed me off!!!!!!!!!!!

Joe I have a 13 F250 and it is great so far. It is a beast. Very nice truck and mine is an XLR. Congratulations.

I think a need a training class for all the bells and whistles Already been doing some reasearch and looking at programmers Anyone have experience with them on the 6.7L?

Chad, heard real good things about the H&S..One problem though, they are backordered nationwide and the companies who have them want double retail $1500+

Man, I dunno. I don't want to mess around with tuners or anything that is going to cause issues with my warranty. And frankly, these 6.7s are powerful enough without having to mess around with that stuff. And I don't know this as fact, but my understanding is that the mechanics can tell if a tuner has ever been put on these newer trucks, even if you remove it prior to bringing it in. I'm just going to wait until the warranty is out before I do anything, even just a leveling kit and bigger tires.

I've got a 12 F150 in the shop with 74k on it & right manifold is cracked (5.0) My 12 F150 has 45k (ecoboost) & it's been trouble free! I have a 01 F350 (7.3)with damn near half a million miles & wouldn't hesitate to take it cross country today!

I'm with Nate I'm waiting until the warranty runs out.

Everyone has a valid point.  It really depends on what you are going to do with the truck.  If you are going to leave it stock then really no need for computer.  But if you do a DPF delete, CAT delete, EGR delete, ETC. then you will definetly need a computer.  

njcraddock wrote:

Man, I dunno. I don't want to mess around with tuners or anything that is going to cause issues with my warranty. And frankly, these 6.7s are powerful enough without having to mess around with that stuff. And I don't know this as fact, but my understanding is that the mechanics can tell if a tuner has ever been put on these newer trucks, even if you remove it prior to bringing it in. I'm just going to wait until the warranty is out before I do anything, even just a leveling kit and bigger tires.

I have heard that also that they can tell if a programmer has been hooked up. I've got some inside sources at Ford and I will check it out. No doubt if it voids the warranty it's a no go.

Congrats on the new ride.

RZR_Joe wrote:

The F150 is bye-bye...brought home a new F250 Lariat w 6.7L PS

Yes if you put a tuner on it will leave a "footprint" in the ECM.

BigAlCash wrote:

Yes if you put a tuner on it will leave a "footprint" in the ECM.

that's true for only certain programmers. I worked for FMC for the last 7 years & ran programmers on every one of my diesels but would remove before putting it in the shop. I even ran one on the hated 6.0 & put over 200K "mildly trouble free miles" on it! (injectors (5) ficm, egr delete)

First this post starts out as, " ford pissed me off" ! Than it turns into, " look at my new ford" !............  Am i missing something or just seeing a trend? ...............Sorry Joe just payback for the 3 wheel comment on trail.

Hiteckredneckxp wrote:

BigAlCash wrote:

Yes if you put a tuner on it will leave a "footprint" in the ECM.

that's true for only certain programmers. I worked for FMC for the last 7 years & ran programmers on every one of my diesels but would remove before putting it in the shop. I even ran one on the hated 6.0 & put over 200K "mildly trouble free miles" on it! (injectors (5) ficm, egr delete)

My understanding is that it is only the new 6.7's that have the ability to detect the tuners. I put 100k miles on my 2005 6.0 mostly trouble free (had a turbo replaced under warranty). With head studs and an EGR delete they were pretty doggone good motors. Still, with the 6.7 I just don't see the need to hop it up until it's out of warranty, they are just too darn expensive.

crs wrote:

First this post starts out as, " ford pissed me off" ! Than it turns into, " look at my new ford" !............  Am i missing something or just seeing a trend? ...............Sorry Joe just payback for the 3 wheel comment on trail.

Well actually my dealer pissed me off, you missed that part But hey what did I expect from a canned ham owner

HUH?????????????? Ha Ha. No i didn't miss it. I was talking about the title. Just having some fun with ya. Btw; nice ride. I already know how this story is gonna play out. Canned ham owner, humm...............wanna compare repair bills????? Sorry, had to go there.

sorry i had to do it.

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bush wrote:

That's one Bush

Now that's some funny right there!!! And i thought i was being a bit hard on ya. . Actually, i'm jealous about everyone posting pics and vids like this. My brain cells haven't let me absorb the process to do such things. Must be too much canned ham.

njcraddock wrote:

Hiteckredneckxp wrote:

BigAlCash wrote:

Yes if you put a tuner on it will leave a "footprint" in the ECM.

that's true for only certain programmers. I worked for FMC for the last 7 years & ran programmers on every one of my diesels but would remove before putting it in the shop. I even ran one on the hated 6.0 & put over 200K "mildly trouble free miles" on it! (injectors (5) ficm, egr delete)

My understanding is that it is only the new 6.7's that have the ability to detect the tuners. I put 100k miles on my 2005 6.0 mostly trouble free (had a turbo replaced under warranty). With head studs and an EGR delete they were pretty doggone good motors. Still, with the 6.7 I just don't see the need to hop it up until it's out of warranty, they are just too darn expensive.

With out question the Ford 6.7 will leave a footprint in the ECM. Remember, one of my best friends works for ford.

Big-R wrote:

njcraddock wrote:

Hiteckredneckxp wrote:

BigAlCash wrote:

Yes if you put a tuner on it will leave a "footprint" in the ECM.

that's true for only certain programmers. I worked for FMC for the last 7 years & ran programmers on every one of my diesels but would remove before putting it in the shop. I even ran one on the hated 6.0 & put over 200K "mildly trouble free miles" on it! (injectors (5) ficm, egr delete)

My understanding is that it is only the new 6.7's that have the ability to detect the tuners. I put 100k miles on my 2005 6.0 mostly trouble free (had a turbo replaced under warranty). With head studs and an EGR delete they were pretty doggone good motors. Still, with the 6.7 I just don't see the need to hop it up until it's out of warranty, they are just too darn expensive.

With out question the Ford 6.7 will leave a footprint in the ECM.  Remember, one of my best friends works for ford.

Talked to a couple of buddies who work for Ford and they say it will be detectable. One says he knows a way around it....not worth the risk to me as the warranty is way too valuable.