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Foxfire SSXSRider Member
Number of posts : 6060 Registration date : 2008-04-01 Age : 73 Location : Bristol, Wisconsin
| Subject: Re: Looking at getting a side x side Rhino or RZR. Mon Oct 12, 2009 7:24 pm | |
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| | | GunRunner SSXSRider Member
Number of posts : 5296 Registration date : 2008-01-22 Age : 70 Location : North Georgia,
| Subject: Re: Looking at getting a side x side Rhino or RZR. Mon Oct 12, 2009 7:59 pm | |
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| | | Foxfire SSXSRider Member
Number of posts : 6060 Registration date : 2008-04-01 Age : 73 Location : Bristol, Wisconsin
| Subject: Re: Looking at getting a side x side Rhino or RZR. Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:03 pm | |
| Yep.....8 G for a new Rhion.....great deal in my book too!!!!!! | |
| | | Showtime
Number of posts : 96 Registration date : 2009-02-10 Age : 63 Location : Davidsonville, MD
| Subject: Re: Looking at getting a side x side Rhino or RZR. Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:31 pm | |
| The guy asking the origional question is the one who said his buddies said the Rino Rubs!!!!! There was a time when asking an OPINION, YES I SAID AN OPINION, on this site led to some great feedback. Not anymore. Now it usually means a pissing contest. I am almost to the point that I am not interested in commenting on most of this stuff anymore because it seems like a few people will take what you say and try to make an ASS out of you. (And I don't mean Gunny.) Some guys just have a little more to say than others, and some give what I THINK is a little more usable advice. An opinion is different than a fact and I think very often opinions are misread as facts. Guys like Gunny seems to know alot about the Polaris machines, and have good techinical information to share and some opinions also. However, some people on here wait for something to be said by someone they dont care for, and then try to make an issue out of it (you know who you are, same guys as last time) . Keep giving us your ADVICE, the FACTS, and your OPINION Gunny, I for one, and I know many others value what you have to say. Some people just can't stand anyone that is smarter than they are about a given subject, and so they start trying to trip them up to make themselves feel better. So my final advise is read a post on a topic and just decide if it helps YOU instead of trying to find something WRONG with it. Who knows, maybe we all might learn SOMETHING WE DONT ALREADY KNOW. | |
| | | 2Slow4U SSXSRider Member
Number of posts : 1657 Registration date : 2009-05-18 Age : 72 Location : Sevierville, Tennessee
| | | | bush SSXSRider Staff
Number of posts : 6141 Registration date : 2008-06-06 Age : 40 Location : Castlewood VA
| Subject: Re: Looking at getting a side x side Rhino or RZR. Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:39 pm | |
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| | | GunRunner SSXSRider Member
Number of posts : 5296 Registration date : 2008-01-22 Age : 70 Location : North Georgia,
| Subject: Re: Looking at getting a side x side Rhino or RZR. Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:43 pm | |
| Ok, tri5chevy, sorry for the but maybe you found some info that can be useful amongst all the when you do decide and buy something be sure to post some
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| | | S SSXSRider Member
Number of posts : 1655 Registration date : 2008-09-12 Age : 52 Location : Solsberry, Indiana
| | | | bush SSXSRider Staff
Number of posts : 6141 Registration date : 2008-06-06 Age : 40 Location : Castlewood VA
| Subject: Re: Looking at getting a side x side Rhino or RZR. Mon Oct 12, 2009 9:19 pm | |
| - tri5chevy wrote:
- I do have a small piece of land that I use my ATV on but for the most part my ATV is used for trail riding. Most of the trails that I ride are tight four wheeler trails, but my Rhino buddies get through them fine with alot of rubbing. I would like to here form people that have had both or have both. I also do alot of riding at Brimestone and Harlen haven't had the chance to ride Bell county yet. Any and all opinons will be appreciated.
tri5chevy, i own both and you will not be disapointed with ether one you go with. if you have done the work around the house with an atv a rzr will do the same work even easier than any big bore atv can and take a buddy along and that is the truth. the rzr is the funnest atv/sxs i have rode. the rhino is great in the trails also but has less power. the rhino is a much better worker and can haul more. it all depends on how you ride and if you like speed and power!! no one here can deside for you. good luck with what ever you get! and when you do get one post pics and lets go ride sometime. | |
| | | GunRunner SSXSRider Member
Number of posts : 5296 Registration date : 2008-01-22 Age : 70 Location : North Georgia,
| Subject: Re: Looking at getting a side x side Rhino or RZR. Mon Oct 12, 2009 9:23 pm | |
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| | | Mud-and-Guts SSXSRider Member
Number of posts : 1839 Registration date : 2008-09-22 Age : 45 Location : celina,tn
| Subject: Re: Looking at getting a side x side Rhino or RZR. Mon Oct 12, 2009 9:41 pm | |
| I see nothing wrong with the popo's ,the kawi's, the Yamaha's, nor any other brand for that matter its all in what you are going to do with it and the budget you have. I personally choice the Rhino 450 because of the price and if I could have gotten the 700 for 8000 at that time I would have gotten the 700 for the extra acceleration. | |
| | | ChrisC SSXSRider Member
Number of posts : 5483 Registration date : 2008-06-30 Age : 58 Location : Marietta GA
| Subject: Re: Looking at getting a side x side Rhino or RZR. Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:00 pm | |
| Glad everybody is now happy and on the same page. Now i won't need to lock the gate... | |
| | | ridepate SSXSRider Staff
Number of posts : 6409 Registration date : 2009-04-23 Age : 64 Location : 1st join date- 1/22/2008- North Ga.
| Subject: Re: Looking at getting a side x side Rhino or RZR. Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:28 pm | |
| - GunRunner wrote:
- Thanks for the support showtime and guys. I dont want to bash any brand and wish the forum could get back to the way it was where we could joke with each other and it not ignite a brand feud. Ever since some decided to buy new machines seems like the tension has gone thru the roof. The forum should be fun and we all should be friends.
You don't want to bash any brand????????? Gunny to you, if it ain't a RZR, it ain't nothing. Sorry ,the RZR is only about two-clicks off from a Chino buggy, it's build-quaility is sub-par compared to Yamaha, I know, I've OWNED both. As far as duribility is concerened, Rhino all the way hands-down. IF it's performance on a short-lived scale, the RZR rocks, but just be prepared to get rid of it in two years. I can see now ,if you don't, it will be a 3k pos with no re-sale ,where a Yamaha will hold it's value much better, I did the reasearch, as long as Yamaha don't kill the namesake, which they may ,that would be my only apprehension at this point. | |
| | | Mud-and-Guts SSXSRider Member
Number of posts : 1839 Registration date : 2008-09-22 Age : 45 Location : celina,tn
| Subject: Re: Looking at getting a side x side Rhino or RZR. Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:34 pm | |
| - ridepate wrote:
- GunRunner wrote:
- Thanks for the support showtime and guys. I dont want to bash any brand and wish the forum could get back to the way it was where we could joke with each other and it not ignite a brand feud. Ever since some decided to buy new machines seems like the tension has gone thru the roof. The forum should be fun and we all should be friends.
You don't want to bash any brand????????? Gunny to you, if it ain't a RZR, it ain't nothing. Sorry ,the RZR is only about two-clicks off from a Chino buggy, it's build-quaility is sub-par compared to Yamaha, I know, I've OWNED both. As far as duribility is concerened, Rhino all the way hands-down. IF it's performance on a short-lived scale, the RZR rocks, but just be prepared to get rid of it in two years. I can see now ,if you don't, it will be a 3k pos with no re-sale ,where a Rhino will hold it's value much better as long as Yamaha don't kill the namesake, which they may ,that would be my only apprehension at this point. I don't know about the resale on the RZR but around here they ask as much or more for a used 660-700 than a new 700 cost. To me it is kind of senseless to buy used at that price. Ridepate I know you really liked your Rhino (and I don't blame you it was the sh-t)but what about the RZR do you not like? I hope you decide you like it better it being such a big investment. | |
| | | 2Slow4U SSXSRider Member
Number of posts : 1657 Registration date : 2009-05-18 Age : 72 Location : Sevierville, Tennessee
| Subject: Re: Looking at getting a side x side Rhino or RZR. Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:43 pm | |
| I just don't see Yamaha leaving the whole market that THEY created... UTVs are a growing market, ATVs are a shrinking market, as the baby-boomers get older. I think Yamaha will certainly remain in the market if they can survive the onslaught of lawsuits. They've certainly said they plan to, even with the delays in the new model intro... The new Teryx is nothing radically new -- just refinements on their original, like the Rhino 700 was. Nor are the new Polaris machines really new, other than the midsize/electric. It will definitely be interesting to see what's released by Yamaha early next year... I have NO brand loyalty -- I've owned Honda, Yamaha and Suzuki. I actually wish that Honda had come out with a sport utility instead of just pure utility model. That would've been my first choice -- because of relaibility. | |
| | | Mud-and-Guts SSXSRider Member
Number of posts : 1839 Registration date : 2008-09-22 Age : 45 Location : celina,tn
| Subject: Re: Looking at getting a side x side Rhino or RZR. Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:48 pm | |
| - KentT wrote:
I have NO brand loyalty -- I've owned Honda, Yamaha and Suzuki. I actually wish that Honda had come out with a sport utility instead of just pure utility model. That would've been my first choice -- because of relaibility. I got to say I am brand loyal(I bleed Blue). If you had looked in my garage any time since I bought my first ATV till now you will find nothing but Yamaha's(3 at this time 07 Wolverine 450, 07 Raptor 700, and 08 Rhino 450). When I find something that works with a company that backs it up I send them my money.......... Not saying nothing is wrong with any other brand but like I said when I find something that works I stick with it.
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| | | 4x4pac
Number of posts : 475 Registration date : 2009-06-03 Age : 56 Location : Southern Illinois
| Subject: Re: Looking at getting a side x side Rhino or RZR. Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:49 pm | |
| - ridepate wrote:
- GunRunner wrote:
- Thanks for the support showtime and guys. I dont want to bash any brand and wish the forum could get back to the way it was where we could joke with each other and it not ignite a brand feud. Ever since some decided to buy new machines seems like the tension has gone thru the roof. The forum should be fun and we all should be friends.
You don't want to bash any brand????????? Gunny to you, if it ain't a RZR, it ain't nothing. Sorry ,the RZR is only about two-clicks off from a Chino buggy, it's build-quaility is sub-par compared to Yamaha, I know, I've OWNED both. As far as duribility is concerened, Rhino all the way hands-down. IF it's performance on a short-lived scale, the RZR rocks, but just be prepared to get rid of it in two years. I can see now ,if you don't, it will be a 3k pos with no re-sale ,where a Yamaha will hold it's value much better, I did the reasearch, as long as Yamaha don't kill the namesake, which they may ,that would be my only apprehension at this point. WOW the above statement is SO CORRECT. Just wondering what the diehard rzr s owner will do if can am comes out with a sport sxs? Will he then be knocking the rzr s that he know owns? | |
| | | ridepate SSXSRider Staff
Number of posts : 6409 Registration date : 2009-04-23 Age : 64 Location : 1st join date- 1/22/2008- North Ga.
| Subject: Re: Looking at getting a side x side Rhino or RZR. Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:57 pm | |
| - mud-and-guts wrote:
- ridepate wrote:
- GunRunner wrote:
- Thanks for the support showtime and guys. I dont want to bash any brand and wish the forum could get back to the way it was where we could joke with each other and it not ignite a brand feud. Ever since some decided to buy new machines seems like the tension has gone thru the roof. The forum should be fun and we all should be friends.
You don't want to bash any brand????????? Gunny to you, if it ain't a RZR, it ain't nothing. Sorry ,the RZR is only about two-clicks off from a Chino buggy, it's build-quaility is sub-par compared to Yamaha, I know, I've OWNED both. As far as duribility is concerened, Rhino all the way hands-down. IF it's performance on a short-lived scale, the RZR rocks, but just be prepared to get rid of it in two years. I can see now ,if you don't, it will be a 3k pos with no re-sale ,where a Rhino will hold it's value much better as long as Yamaha don't kill the namesake, which they may ,that would be my only apprehension at this point. I don't know about the resale on the RZR but around here they ask as much or more for a used 660-700 than a new 700 cost. To me it is kind of senseless to buy used at that price.
Ridepate I know you really liked your Rhino (and I don't blame you it was the sh-t)but what about the RZR do you not like? I hope you decide you like it better it being such a big investment. You know what bro, it has it's atributes, but it ain't a Rhino. Squeaking/creaking suspension, yeah it's an easy fix, but why do I have to fix it?? No washers on almost all the bolts??? The plating on all the bolts comes off the first time you put a wrench on them=cheap. I look at little things, maybe I'm too critical. Rubber bushings that mount the radiator-cracking when I picked-it up, cheap,. Sagging shock-springs, and they keep on sagging because they come from China I found out, Fox should be ashamed to put thier name on them, and thats all they do, put thier name on them, they don't build them. I rotated my rear-tires the other day due to some street-wear and to prolong life, the chrome came completely off one of the lug-nuts, flaked right off-cheap. I could go on and on about what I don't like about the machine. Sorry I bought it?? I'm on the fence. Now for it's good things . The 4wd system is awesome, how it works as good as it does, i"m still puzzled by, but it works way better than Yamahas. Is it as durable-NO, it has a plastic-caged sprauge-bearing in the front, you can bust easyly, ask Bush. Speed, I'm a speed freak, it will peel back your brows no doubt, but again, for how long?? Ask me in a year, if I still have it, if it wasa worth the loss. | |
| | | ridepate SSXSRider Staff
Number of posts : 6409 Registration date : 2009-04-23 Age : 64 Location : 1st join date- 1/22/2008- North Ga.
| Subject: Re: Looking at getting a side x side Rhino or RZR. Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:59 pm | |
| - 4x4pac wrote:
- ridepate wrote:
- GunRunner wrote:
- Thanks for the support showtime and guys. I dont want to bash any brand and wish the forum could get back to the way it was where we could joke with each other and it not ignite a brand feud. Ever since some decided to buy new machines seems like the tension has gone thru the roof. The forum should be fun and we all should be friends.
You don't want to bash any brand????????? Gunny to you, if it ain't a RZR, it ain't nothing. Sorry ,the RZR is only about two-clicks off from a Chino buggy, it's build-quaility is sub-par compared to Yamaha, I know, I've OWNED both. As far as duribility is concerened, Rhino all the way hands-down. IF it's performance on a short-lived scale, the RZR rocks, but just be prepared to get rid of it in two years. I can see now ,if you don't, it will be a 3k pos with no re-sale ,where a Yamaha will hold it's value much better, I did the reasearch, as long as Yamaha don't kill the namesake, which they may ,that would be my only apprehension at this point. WOW the above statement is SO CORRECT. Just wondering what the diehard rzr s owner will do if can am comes out with a sport sxs? Will he then be knocking the rzr s that he know owns? I know what I'll do-SELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | |
| | | Mud-and-Guts SSXSRider Member
Number of posts : 1839 Registration date : 2008-09-22 Age : 45 Location : celina,tn
| Subject: Re: Looking at getting a side x side Rhino or RZR. Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:14 am | |
| - ridepate wrote:
You know what bro, it has it's atributes, but it ain't a Rhino. Squeaking/creaking suspension, yeah it's an easy fix, but why do I have to fix it?? No washers on almost all the bolts??? The plating on all the bolts comes off the first time you put a wrench on them=cheap. I look at little things, maybe I'm too critical. Rubber bushings that mount the radiator-cracking when I picked-it up, cheap,. Sagging shock-springs, and they keep on sagging because they come from China I found out, Fox should be ashamed to put thier name on them, and thats all they do, put thier name on them, they don't build them. I rotated my rear-tires the other day due to some street-wear and to prolong life, the chrome came completely off one of the lug-nuts, flaked right off-cheap. I could go on and on about what I don't like about the machine. Sorry I bought it?? I'm on the fence. Now for it's good things . The 4wd system is awesome, how it works as good as it does, i"m still puzzled by, but it works way better than Yamahas. Is it as durable-NO, it has a plastic-caged sprauge-bearing in the front, you can bust easyly, ask Bush. Speed, I'm a speed freak, it will peel back your brows no doubt, but again, for how long?? Ask me in a year, if I still have it, if it wasa worth the loss. I do the same thing bro, Wish I didn't but every little thing annoys me. I like for everything on my bikes to be so so. | |
| | | AIRBORNE SSXSRider Member
Number of posts : 6266 Registration date : 2008-05-01 Age : 50 Location : Morgantown, West Virginia
| Subject: Re: Looking at getting a side x side Rhino or RZR. Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:28 am | |
| I still wish Suzuki would come out with a SxS. It would put all the Yamaha-Polaris bullshit to bed..... | |
| | | Showtime
Number of posts : 96 Registration date : 2009-02-10 Age : 63 Location : Davidsonville, MD
| Subject: Re: Looking at getting a side x side Rhino or RZR. Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:57 am | |
| Nothing will ever put brand choice to bed. Just look at the auto market. (and don't say just look at GM, that will just get me going on another topic) Peoples wants, needs, requirements, and budgets, etc., not to mention styles, change constantly. Add to all this changes in pure technology. Old customers die off new customers arrive. It is a constantly changing world and market and anyone who thinks there will ever be a machine that meets EVERYONES requirements along with their budget and expectations is not being realistic. Also perception is something that is different for everyone, and another reason that people will not always agree even when looking at the same information. Choice is GOOD, Buy what works for you at the time and for all YOUR OWN personal reasons AND RQUIREMENTS and just try to enjoy and be satisified with the decision YOU made, and STOP trying to convince YOURSELF an OTHERS that you have done the right thing. | |
| | | Rhino Rob SSXSRider Member
Number of posts : 2577 Registration date : 2009-01-25 Age : 63 Location : the home of the volunteers and port st joe tiger sharks
| Subject: Re: Looking at getting a side x side Rhino or RZR. Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:13 am | |
| excellent advice showtime, as usual try it before you buy it. took 5 before i got my wife | |
| | | Mud-and-Guts SSXSRider Member
Number of posts : 1839 Registration date : 2008-09-22 Age : 45 Location : celina,tn
| Subject: Re: Looking at getting a side x side Rhino or RZR. Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:19 am | |
| - Rhino Rob wrote:
- excellent advice showtime, as usual try it before you buy it.
took 5 before i got my wife Been there | |
| | | Big-R SSXSRider Staff
Number of posts : 16074 Registration date : 2008-02-26 Age : 51 Location : Louisville,Ky
| Subject: Re: Looking at getting a side x side Rhino or RZR. Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:56 pm | |
| Wow, I don't even know where to start!!!!!!!!! tri5chevy, I am sorry for the way we have acted on your thread. Moreover, I am embarrassed in the behavior of this site. I hope that you did find the information you were looking for. My members, What the hell is wrong with us. I am not going to ignore the 500 pound gorilla setting in the corner. We are way too uptight here. There are many reasons behind the tension and there are many at fault. First of all, Gunny is no angel. That is a fact. Many here love him or hate him. I think I have felt both ways about him many times in the same day. But, the guy is a great dude. You will learn this when you COME AND RIDE WITH US. He has done his fare share of stirring the pot. Moreover, I think we are assuming Gunny will say something smart ass. Don't assume guys you know what it makes us. Gunny does have some great info from time to time. Second, you guys with the RZR's get over it. I mean really...... grow a spine. I am getting tired of hearing "all they do is bash the RZR". We sound like a bunch of babies. I know many of you were bashing the shit out of the RZR over a year ago. Now you get offended any time some one says anything about the RZR. Mom, Ronnie is making fun of me....... This was not a problem until many of you bought your RZR. There is no more bashing now then before. You just do not like hearing it now. What comes around goes around. Which leads me to my next point...... Lastly, this RZR thing has gotten out of control. There has been a lot of phone calling to members that keeps tension high. You are making things way worse then they really are. Moreover, you are taking things out of contexts in order to prove your false point. You guys know who you are and and it better stop. This is a place for fun and information. I would like to keep it that way. I guess I will have to make it a rule that if you do not have that machine that you can not make a comment about it. Is that what I need to do??????? Is that what you guys really want????? Sincerely frustrated, Big-R | |
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