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WV Hot Rod Rhino
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wvyankee2
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Location : Mohave County, Arizona

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PostSubject: Re: Rhino dead   Rhino dead - Page 4 EmptySun Jan 16, 2011 2:34 pm

Clayboy wrote:
ridepate, 2fast4u,,,, thank you both for trying to help this man get his machine going. We have gotten off topic here, so lets get things going in the right direction again and do our best to provide usefull insite to help solve his problem. Thank you, Clayboy.

2fast4u wrote:
Wink

2fast4u wrote:


Sorry about that ,someone wanted to play kid games,
he did pull the starter and put power to it with nothing happening...


2fast4u, glad you edited the one post. It was the right thing to do. Debating, challenging, and even poking fun at each other on relevant issues on the forum and even at each others knowledge or skill relating to them are all cool. Personal attacks on non related issues are not. As a Moderator on the Mud and Guts site, i'm sure you can appreciate the importance of giving respect to a Moderators wishes when they request the members to tone it down and stay on issue. Your Avatar is still not helping in this situation. Removing it and moving on would be the right thing to do.
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2fast4u

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Location : Livingston,Tennessee

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PostSubject: Re: Rhino dead   Rhino dead - Page 4 EmptySun Jan 16, 2011 5:36 pm

Thanks...I thought about it and decided I have nothing to prove to anyone and to act MY AGE !! allright
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PostSubject: Re: Rhino dead   Rhino dead - Page 4 EmptySun Jan 16, 2011 5:38 pm

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Big-R
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Location : Louisville,Ky

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PostSubject: Re: Rhino dead   Rhino dead - Page 4 EmptySun Jan 16, 2011 6:10 pm

2fast4u wrote:
Thanks...I thought about it and decided I have nothing to prove to anyone and to act MY AGE !! allright

I know it is hard sometimes. I find myself auguring with Smith 700, he is fifteen..... hide

lol!

All kidding aside, most everyone appreciates help. I know I do. I just hope MuddyBuddy finds out whats wrong with his machine.
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PostSubject: Re: Rhino dead   Rhino dead - Page 4 EmptySun Jan 16, 2011 6:21 pm

Big-R wrote:
2fast4u wrote:
Thanks...I thought about it and decided I have nothing to prove to anyone and to act MY AGE !! allright

I know it is hard sometimes. I find myself auguring with Smith 700, he is fifteen..... hide

lol!

All kidding aside, most everyone appreciates help. I know I do. I just hope MuddyBuddy finds out whats wrong with his machine.
Me too, seeing thats what this post is all about Cool
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wvyankee2
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PostSubject: Re: Rhino dead   Rhino dead - Page 4 EmptySun Jan 16, 2011 7:21 pm

2fast4u wrote:
Thanks...I thought about it and decided I have nothing to prove to anyone and to act MY AGE !! allright


Thanks allright
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Mud-and-Guts
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PostSubject: Re: Rhino dead   Rhino dead - Page 4 EmptySun Jan 16, 2011 8:29 pm

2fast4u wrote:
Thanks...I thought about it and decided I have nothing to prove to anyone and to act MY AGE !! allright

Very wise words that are very very hard to live by!


thatsright
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Smith700
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PostSubject: Re: Rhino dead   Rhino dead - Page 4 EmptySun Jan 16, 2011 9:43 pm

R is right, We will argue at times, but are good friends and I can ask him for help on something and will always help.
Thats what its all about....

Muddybuddy......Have you tried the new starter you said you ordered???
Or am I gonna have to come build you a new motor???? Cool
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MuddyBuddy
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PostSubject: Re: Rhino dead   Rhino dead - Page 4 EmptyMon Jan 17, 2011 11:46 am

glad to see this thing was still alive in well when I wasant. My starter actually got here yesterday... but i had the somache flu that im just now getting over so Im actually going to put it on here in a little bit then we well know. I dont think it was the belt thats what I will check next if the new starter dosnt work.
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Craig_C

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PostSubject: Re: Rhino dead   Rhino dead - Page 4 EmptyMon Jan 17, 2011 5:22 pm

Your belt will NOT keep it from starting, unless you have put an aftermarket snowmobile clutch on it!

I hope your machine just died, and the starter happened to take a poop at the same time!

I guess it would be weird, but the starter could have shorted, pulling down the electrical system, and thats why it died on you.
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Smith700
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PostSubject: Re: Rhino dead   Rhino dead - Page 4 EmptyMon Jan 17, 2011 5:54 pm

Muddybuddy, let us know if the new starter fixes it.....Otherwise, I had better get my compression tester, my torque wrench, and head to your house to get started on the motor!!
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MuddyBuddy
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PostSubject: Re: Rhino dead   Rhino dead - Page 4 EmptyTue Jan 18, 2011 11:49 am

well if you have ever had to transplant a starter on a rhino trust me its a PITA!!!!! I tried for an hour yesterday and could not get it in felt like i was doin more damage than good trying to push it in, that and having to run to the bathroom every 15 min wasn't helping so i called it a day im feeling a little better today so im gonna give it another shot and let everybody know tonight. This might be a deal breaker tho.. There are two lil wires that plug into your carb right behind it underneath it. The rear one of those was loose when i was putting in the new starter but that could of very well been from where I was moving the carb around to install the starter.
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PostSubject: Re: Rhino dead   Rhino dead - Page 4 EmptyTue Jan 18, 2011 12:34 pm

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MuddyBuddy
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PostSubject: Re: Rhino dead   Rhino dead - Page 4 EmptyTue Jan 18, 2011 5:56 pm

Just put the new starter in finally. Reconnected everything put it back together and..... nothing...... still same tune turn the key and no noise. Im taking any and all suggestions at this point lol. Im gonna go back tonight and triple check everything again! Not sure if the starter not being it a good thing meaning it is something small that im somehow missing or a much bigger issue. However I can turn the motor via the bolt under the fan outside the stator housing.
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Craig_C

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PostSubject: Re: Rhino dead   Rhino dead - Page 4 EmptyTue Jan 18, 2011 6:08 pm

Did you chase the battery cables? From the battery to the starter and to a good chassis ground?

Did you jump the starter relay? What happened when you did?

You have a bad connection, I would bet on it, with a main battery cable. If you jump the solinoid and nothing happens, its between there and the starter- or - its a bad ground.
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PostSubject: Re: Rhino dead   Rhino dead - Page 4 EmptyTue Jan 18, 2011 6:25 pm

MuddyBuddy I have a shop service repair manual the 660 rhino. it has all the wiring and trouble shooting info in it. if you want a copy pm me your email and I will send it to you.
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MuddyBuddy
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PostSubject: Re: Rhino dead   Rhino dead - Page 4 EmptyTue Jan 18, 2011 6:34 pm

Well alright, just took a set of jumpers and went straight from the battery to the starter. And well it made a noise. It was not a complete turn but more like a half turn like it was trying but it couldn't... tried it 5 times and it did the same thing every time.
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PostSubject: Re: Rhino dead   Rhino dead - Page 4 EmptyTue Jan 18, 2011 6:44 pm

Did you turn the crankshaft 2 (TWO) complete rotations when you turned it by hand ? Do that and report back!
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PostSubject: Re: Rhino dead   Rhino dead - Page 4 EmptyTue Jan 18, 2011 7:20 pm

turning the bolt under the fan on the outside casing of the stator is doing this correct?
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PostSubject: Re: Rhino dead   Rhino dead - Page 4 EmptyTue Jan 18, 2011 7:22 pm

Yes, turn it so that you do two complete rotations, this will make sure the camshaft turns all the way, as it turns at half the speed of the crank.
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MuddyBuddy
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PostSubject: Re: Rhino dead   Rhino dead - Page 4 EmptyTue Jan 18, 2011 7:28 pm

Right as soon as I was making that full second pass it stopped moving....
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PostSubject: Re: Rhino dead   Rhino dead - Page 4 EmptyTue Jan 18, 2011 7:40 pm

I'm out of ideas MuddyBuddy........
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MuddyBuddy
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PostSubject: Re: Rhino dead   Rhino dead - Page 4 EmptyTue Jan 18, 2011 7:45 pm

Hopefully Craig is on to something! Sorry for not calling you back corey phones been on the charger
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Big-R
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PostSubject: Re: Rhino dead   Rhino dead - Page 4 EmptyTue Jan 18, 2011 7:48 pm

MuddyBuddy wrote:
Right as soon as I was making that full second pass it stopped moving....

Damn Mud, You can ride with me this weekend. I have an open seat. Unless you bring the girls.... lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Rhino dead   Rhino dead - Page 4 EmptyTue Jan 18, 2011 7:59 pm

Pull the plug, and the CVT cover. Try to turn it by hand that way or with , I believe, a 22mm socket.
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