My Ranger XP-800 thread.........

roamerr wrote:

Those wheels look like 23's with the lift. Does a Ranger need a lift???

pate will do a lot of things to the ranger that are not needed.......

pate will do a lot of things to the ranger that are not needed.......

Yep -- That's why I like watching this thread. I still think he had a really kickin Rhino. I fully understand a lift on a Rzr but I thought the Ranger had greater ground clearance.

roamerr wrote:

pate will do a lot of things to the ranger that are not needed.......

Yep -- That's why I like watching this thread. I still think he had a really kickin Rhino. I fully understand a lift on a Rzr but I thought the Ranger had greater ground clearance.

I thought you would understand..... You can not leave anything stock..... is wrong with you

Jimbo.....how did it ride/handle with the new lift??? Did you check to see what the ground clearance is now?

Big-R wrote:

You can not leave anything stock..... is wrong with you

Never was a truer quote quoted!!!!!!!!!

roamerr wrote:

Those wheels look like 23's with the lift. Does a Ranger need a lift???

The stock tires say they are 26, but they measure 24-1/2, so yeah they look little, we're gonna fix that.
Lift?? 14-1/2 G.C stock, really need one?? Probably not.

Foxfire wrote:

Jimbo.....how did it ride/handle with the new lift??? Did you check to see what the ground clearance is now?

The ride really did not change much, if any really. I'll put a tape to it tomorrow.

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http://www.diamondbackcovers.com/utv/utv-accessories-roofs.php?f=polaris-ranger

This ain't gonna work............These damn bracket lifts, I tell ya. I wish I had the equipment to make them right. So-Far, I've yet to see any done correctly. I know better. And this is with the weight of the machine on the ground. When I put it on the floorjack the springs touch the tire...................

Yep, seems like all the budget lifts have one issue or another.

wvyankee2 wrote:

Yep, seems like all the budget lifts have one issue or another.

At $161.00 this ain't no budget lift.

Ya Pate , you got to change that some how.
seems like a problem waiting to happen....

I think EMP designed the lift using a XP with steel-wheels, which I'd bet the offsets different. If all these guys would keep the shock-geometry the same, which is not hard to do, these problems of being stiffer, and clearence problems, due to straightening-up the shock angles, would go-away.

See the white-line I drew on the mount, it would keep the geometry the same, and clearence the same. Why's that so hard??

do u have the vid of the new exhaust sound

Sucks to hear about the lift issues bro. Seems like not enough R&D go into most of the aftermarket lifts. I think if I ever install another lift on my Rhino either I will make it or I will buy one that relocates the a-arms instead of just moving the shocks.....My .02

How did that lift do with the angle of the front tires?

Fronts are ok, it did change the angles tho. And your right, not enough R&D goes into much, if any of these things. If Rick at EMP can't straighten this problem out. I'm gonna cut-off the lower shock-mounts and relocate them. That will change the shock-angles some but no crazy-bracketry will be invloved. Moose, Racer-Tech, Rubber-Down, The one Gunny had on his regular RZR, and now EMP, all bracket-lifts, poor performance seems to be the trend.

ridepate wrote:

I think EMP designed the lift using a XP with steel-wheels, which I'd bet the offsets different. If all these guys would keep the shock-geometry the same, which is not hard to do, these problems of being stiffer, and clearence problems, due to straightening-up the shock angles, would go-away.

See the white-line I drew on the mount, it would keep the geometry the same, and clearence the same. Why's that so hard??

Your are right, but part of the reason for moving the pivot point for the shocks outward is that it gives the spring more leverage which in turn helps get more ground clearance. If they kept it in line like you are showing they would at least have to extend the bracket/piviot more downward to get the same ride height. The problem then would be that when this was done it would let the a-arms drop too far and there would be problems with the CVs binding.

Could you have the brackets on reversed? It looks like if it was turned around the shock would be moved away to a better angle.

GunRunner wrote:

Could you have the brackets on reversed? It looks like if it was turned around the shock would be moved away to a better angle.

I know the moose set up that way. Out and up. It look wrong to me at first but it only went on one way. If it didn't I would have put the damn thing in upside down.

Ok found the solution. EMP "Always recommends" the use of wheel spacers with thier lift.............Damn ,another 149.00.

ridepate wrote:

Ok found the solution. EMP "Always recommends" the use of wheel spacers with thier lift.............Damn ,another 149.00.

More money. I don't think I am going to spend any more money on these damn machines

Big-R wrote:

ridepate wrote:

Ok found the solution. EMP "Always recommends" the use of wheel spacers with thier lift.............Damn ,another 149.00.

More money. I don't think I am going to spend any more money on these damn machines

Think I'm gonna take-up canoeing, surely thiers not that many mods for a canoe.

Wheel spacers also means fender flares. Not $149 but $149 + $200 for flares....

It's only money....

Canoe.......then Pate would be looking at how to lighten it up......then faster oars.....then HID lights.....then how to mount the Ezra cooler....etc, etc

Airborne LT wrote:

Canoe.......then Pate would be looking at how to lighten it up......then faster oars.....then HID lights.....then how to mount the Ezra cooler....etc, etc

It would end-up going this way, but weedeaters are cheaper than HID's..........